12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Does "even to them that believe on his name" seperate that verse into 2 distinct people, those who accepted him on earth, and those who accept him by name alone?
And, does 13 tell us that God "wills" people into his acceptance?
2007-11-26
12:53:40
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I see no reason to interpret it that way.
It violates the rules of sound exegesis.
The very next phrase qualifies the preceding passage as those who were born: "not of blood... etc."
It is speaking of one class of people, those that believe on His name, receiving Him, and are then born of God - born of the Spirit as Jesus describes in John's Gospel Chapter 3.
2007-11-26 13:01:33
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answered by Anonymous
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The way I see it, what makes us a part of God's people, changes our relationship to Him.
12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God —
13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
Verse 12 is merely telling us that our becoming righteous by faith gives us the right to be Children of God. Mind you it is not a right to become a child of God without trusting God, but thereafter it is something irrevocable by any outside force.
Verse 13 is saying to me that the connection we have with this world, especially dealing with lineage, is altered. We are children of God, no longer under the trappings of human connection due to the relationship which we have through the Spirit with God. We are therefore Sons of God by adoption:
Romans 8:23
Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
So no longer children of the world, but children of God. Our lineage is changed to an eternal one in the sight of God.
EDIT: It would do you good to understand Romans 9. It tells what God wills, both for the condemned and for the righteous.
2007-11-26 13:06:39
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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This passage is all about grace.
It speaks about just one group of people who choose to cooperate with God's grace, practice the God given virtue of faith, and declare that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, and the son of the living God.
Of course, God wills people into his acceptance:
1Ti 2:1 I desire therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions and thanksgivings be made for all men:
1Ti 2:2 For kings and for all that are in high station: that we may lead a quiet and a peaceable life in all piety and chastity.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour,
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God: and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus:
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a redemption for all, a testimony in due times.
2007-11-26 13:18:39
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus was/is God in the flesh. 13 tells us that salvation is a gift to be received, not a reward achieved through any human effort.
2007-11-26 13:01:15
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answered by rikirailrd 4
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no. john is talking about the same people: believers.
v13 does not tell us the God "wills" people into accepting. john is saying that if and when people are saved, that it is God's work alone, not because we "decided" to believe.
2007-11-26 12:58:16
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answered by weird child 3
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No. receive = believe
Yes- God wills "everyone" into His acceptance, however-"everyone" does not believe.
2007-11-26 13:00:42
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answered by Higgy Baby 7
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