Look at the lives of these famous occultists, and then decide if it's worth persuing:
Henry Cornielius Agrippa von Nettesheim: One of the most famous occultists of the middle ages. His work has gone on to inspire hundreds of "magical" books and writings. Despite all his occult knowledge, he died in poverty at age 41 in 1532.
Cagliostro, a famous French-Egyptian "magician", did the most embarrassing things, like putting a teacup on his erect penis and telling women "This is the only Bishop you will bow to!" He died in the Bastille in 1795.
John Dee discovered Enochian Magick and tried unsuccessfully to get the spirits to bring him money. He spent the final years of his life stripped of his honors and income and was forced to live incommunicado. He died in extreme poverty at 81.
Paracelsus: Thought himself a great physician, but he was really just an alchemist who had bizarre theories about human anatomy and prescribed dangerous remedies for his patients. This man was said to be arrogant and conceited, and was shunned by the other medical experts of his day.
He died broke at the age of 48.
Edward Kelly: An assistant of Dee, after failing to strike it rich with Enochian Magick, he was killed trying to escape prison. He had been imprisoned for his old hobby, counterfeiting.
Aleister Crowley had a nervous breakdown in spent 4 months in an insane asylum after trying to conjure a demon in a Paris hotel. In 1947 he died impoverished in a flophouse, forgotten by his family, a drug addict and alcoholic, despite starting out in life as a rich heir to Crowley Ale. He squandered it all on drugs and whores. "Success is your proof " - -Liber Al Vel Legis 3:46, Aleister Crowley
Gurdijef was a Russian con man who got involved in many money making scams. Once he dyed sparrows in peroxide and sold them as canaries! Even his biographers admit he had a "streak of charaltainism" about him. He created a system of bunk psychotherapy which is convoluted and even people who practice it can't clearly explain what is. In other words, it was the forerunner of Scientology.
Christian Rosenkrutz never actually existed. The whole Rosicrucian thing was started as a joke to make fun of occultists by a Lutheran minister named Valentin Andrea.
The Fox Sisters started the whole spiritist/seance’ movement in 1840. Years later they confessed the whole thing had been a hoax, but no one wanted to listen.
Samuel "Macgregor" Mathers: Eventually all the members of the Golden Dawn figured out Mathers lied about the secret chiefs, which led to him being kicked out, & the Golden Dawn being disbanded. He died in poverty from Pnumonia in 1918.
Jack Parsons blew himself up in his basement, making nitroglycerin, which he sold on the black market to supplement his income (apparently his money spells didn't work, either.)
Pamela Coleman Smith painted the illustrations for Arthur Edward Waite's tarot deck, one of the most popular decks being used today. She died penniless and alone in a London flat.
Paschal Beverly Randolph inspired people like Aleister Crowley, the members of the O.:T.:O.:., and Henri Gamache. His books are still in print. He committed suicide at age 44, leaving his wife and son to live in poverty.
They couldn't make the occult work, neither can anyone else.
Here's a quote from Wiccan Tradition Head Silver Ravenwolf:
"For years I couldn't afford to go to a hair stylist (still can't, it's shop and chop for me). I got pretty good at stying my own hair from looking at magazine pictures" [SOURCE: Teen Witch, Llewellyn Publications, 2003 edition, page 145]
She also wrote a book about Prosperity spells. Does she sound like she can make it work? She can't even afford a hairdresser! My wife just spent $100 at the beauty parlor and we're far from rich.
Here's another quote from that same book:
"A lot of people tell me how bad their lives have gotten after casting a spell and tell me they won't do Witchcraft anymore. I tell them their lives would have been much worse for not having cast the spell."
If you want to really have a good life, ditch the occult.
2007-11-29 07:37:36
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answered by Anonymous
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ok, um, you are reading the wrong books to know anything about spell craft. Magic is (in its simplest for) the manipulation of energy through the human mind. Can I turn a person into a toad, I wish. Can we fly on broomsticks, wow that would save me so much money on my auto insurance. Most of what you read and see in popular media is a load of bull. Wicca is a religion, and just like any other faith, it is the worship of a deity. It is not a magical bloodline. The only spell I will ever give to someone is a dream spell. It's simple, easy, and you really can't screw it up any worse than give yourself a nightmare. The Celestial Seasonings Sleepy Time tea is the exact recipe (by coincidence, not convenience) for the tea. Boil water, add teabag, stir clockwise. Chant to yourself 'magic dream tea come alive, mingled energies now thrive, show me what I need to see, as I will, so let it be' Do this till done. When done, seal the spell (something to the extent of 'can't harm human, beast, or weather') add milk and sugar or however you take you tea, sip peacefully. Go to bed without any TV, radio, conversation, and as little unnatural light as possible.
2016-03-15 00:44:26
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answered by Anonymous
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If you are really interested in becoming a witch or doing witchcraft I have a couple of questions for you to really ponder.
1. Why do you think you might want to be a witch?
2. What lead you to this path?
3. What do you expect to gain from it?
If your answer to ANY of these questions is "power", forget it. This is not "Charmed" or "Harry Potter".
READ!!! Find out which tradition you would prefer. You may find your answer in, Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft.
I would not bother with any type of initiation or gathering of ritual tools until you find which path you are going to follow. Most tools are not necessary in all traditions. I have much more than most, but then, I have been practicing for a very long time. My particular path essentially needs only a Staff, Dirk (athame) and a Keek-Stane (or crystal ball). Other tools can be acquired as needed.
I am Pecti-Witan (aka Hedge Witch, not Wiccan) a "solitary" practitioner of "the Old Religion", and have been for many, many years. Being a "Witch" is nothing like what is portrayed in movies or on Television. There is nothing flashy about it. we are fairly simple people with "abilities" that everyone has, ours are just honed and utilized. Lots of research and practice. There is a lot to learn when you are dealing with herbal, mineral and candle magick.
I read tarot cards, rune stones and utilize a number of other tools for divination but would NEVER charge anyone for anything I do! Besides, I do not do "readings" or "cast spells" for others on demand. That sounds more like a con game to me! Though I am often asked.
Now as for what I did to start, well, it seemed to come naturally to me, (my mother was a witch and my great grandmother was the daughter of a Comanche medicine man) and I believe this is not my first life (nor the last) as a witch. I have always had a deep respect for nature and have an innate ability to communicate with animals. When I was very young my parents encouraged me to learn about all religions, so I did. And I encourage you to do the same to find your true path. Books are an excellent source, providing you get the right ones, there are some I would avoid (Ravenwolf). I prefer Scott Cunningham. If you can connect with other practitioners that would also be a good way to learn. One question you must ask yourself is are you looking for the structured system of a Coven (you will have to wait until you are 18, unless your parents are part of an established coven) or would you prefer the life as a "Solitary"? Buckland has some very good books outlining both. But my favorite book is still Cunningham's "Wicca, a Guide for the Solitary Practitoner". It is a good place to start (or affirm). You are not too young to start learning, but I think you are too young to begin practice.
The reason I suggest avoiding Ravenwolf is her blatant disreguard for honesty and her intolerance of other faiths and even different sects in Wicca/witchcraft. I think she is the Goddess of Fluffy Bunnies! One trait you will find among honest witches is a respect and tolerance for others faiths, we do not judge people by what they believe or don't believe but by what they say and do. Most of us can embrace the differences.
As you may notice by so many of the answers you got, you also have to have a thick skin, because even in this "advanced" civilization there are still those who believe we worship the devil (LMAO), and would rather turn a blind eye to the world around them. Some will even admit that they think we should be burned at the stake! Ignorance knows no bounds.
Since you are very young, expect ridicule and really stupid requests to do "Magic" like they do on TV or in movies. It is not going to make you cool. Expect people to tell you that you are going to Hell. You will probably lose friends. Just being honest with you.
I hope you find the answers you were looking for whether they are mine or the wisdom of another.
BB
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2007-11-26 17:19:46
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answered by Enchanted Gypsy 6
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Perhaps a seducing spirit is seeking to lead you into the occult so that you won't get saved by Jesus Christ but will join the Devil in the Lake of Fire.
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
Spirits like that will whisper in your ears and if they see that you are tempted they will send someone who has already fallen into the occult your way to suck you in deeper. If a person is like you, wanting to see positive outcomes in your life, they can easily take advantage of that normal human desire and trick them into thinking that a spell they cast came from their own power and not from a demonic source.
Turn to Jesus before it's too late! http://web.express56.com/~bromar/
2007-11-26 11:17:21
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answered by Martin S 7
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If you really want send me an e-mail and we can discuss this more because its not a simple thing at all.
2007-11-26 11:17:28
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answered by Anonymous
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If you like it, try it out. I didn't feel the whole Pagan vibe, but I gave it a shot when searching for a religion that fit with my ideals.
2007-11-26 11:11:54
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answered by flamespeak 4
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Trust me. You are not good at spell ing.
2007-11-26 11:13:55
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answered by What? Me Worry? 7
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it's a normal phase. you'll grow out of it
2007-11-26 11:12:42
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answered by grandfather raven 7
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Evil can have a fatal fascination.
2007-11-26 11:12:23
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answered by cheir 7
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cause you watch to much charmed episodes on TV ...
2007-11-26 11:11:32
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answered by hghostinme 6
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