If this doesn't disaprove christianity, I dont know what will, or Do I??

Question

Way before Jesus was born, there were 3 individuals people looked at as gods. interestingly enough all these 3 gods were born to a VIRGIN in a cave, who claimed they were all gods children, and get this, all three were crucified and had a terrible deaths, tortured and after their deaths they were all ressurected and taken by their father into heaven. What a coincidence, dont you see christians all these stories are copied. These gods were Dionysus/Bacchus186 BCE, OsirisC. 3000 BCE and Horus, Tammuz 2000 BCE do the research. I doubt alot of christians will answer my question!!

Here is a good source for you, and I can even recommend a good books for you guys.

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/jesus_similar.html

Ok, for those of you who dont know BCE means Before the Common, Current, or Christian Era.

BAMAMBA, you have succeeded somewhat trying to sound smart, here is the problem with your check anology. The story of a virgin birth was pretty famous greek methology that people actually believed, it was used to control people and be looked at as god. Now, jesus used the same idea. Now your check theory, if by claiming i recieved a million dollar check in the mail got me big media attention and people looked at me as a god and got me famous, and I had nothing to prove regarding my check, what are the chances of someone like you using the same idea to get ahead in life????

Understand??

Answer 1

Preaching to the choir here. YOU get, I get it, but Christians will refuse until their last dying breath that it is all a lie. Why? Because it will force them to question their own belief, and they just won't do that will they?

Hey, email me with the name of the book. I'd be interested in reading it and educating myself.

Answer 2

I don't understand why it's important to you to "disprove" Christianity, whatever that means, but as to your argument.

Mythology indicates that Osiris was the offspring of a god and a goddess--no mortal woman was involved at all.

Horus is said to have been conceived by Isis as a result of her having sex with Osiris after his death. No mortal, no virgin birth.

Mythology indicates that Dionysus was the product not of a virgin birth, but of Zeus' affair with a mortal woman, of which he was believed to have many, and that after a strange turn of events Dionysus gestated in Zeus' testicles. In any event, the book of Isaiah, which predates the Dionysus myth, prophecies the birth of Jesus to a virgin, so you can leave that particular item off your future epistles.

Even if you were right about even one of these stories, your logic won't suffice. If I receive a check for one million dollars in the mail tomorrow, your having claimed to receive such a check last year would be irrelevant unless you can prove that I never received the check, and that I got the idea for claiming I did from you.

Edit:

Ah, so let's distract everyone from the fact that your original argument--how should I put this?--sucked, and instead create a new one. Except, oops, your second argument assumes that you've already proven your first argument, which you haven't. And any lawyer will tell you that establishing motive isn't nearly sufficient to make a case.

Answer 3

The great lengths they will travel. And still turn up short. This has got to be as bad as some of the counterfeits evolutionists come up with to support their depraved theory. It may prove well the similarities between western society's Christianized pagan holidays and the traditions taught in the catholic and protestant churches.

But much of what was on the website is unsubstantiated (some even out 'right' lies). It helps to look things up. These pagan gods aren't even remotely similar to Christ. Jesus - Yahshua Ha'Maschiach wasn't born in a cave. Ishtar - the mother of prostitutes isn't a virgin either, among other things. And I've been to this bogus website before. So, this isn't any profound discovery.

There is a big difference between faith and religion. Religion can actually work against faith for reasons such as the ones seen here. Faith is a personal relationship. I have long known where Dec. 25 came from, as well as Sunday worship, cross worship, the rosary, Mary being queen of heaven, and many other things. And Satan knew of Christ long before we did. Revelation 12:4 - The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.

Read a Bible and "the truth shall set you free."

Answer 4

First, a little bit of history, although I do hate to let facts get in the way of a good story. Crucifixion was a Roman method of putting people to death. Neither the Egyptians nor the Greeks used it. There seems to be pretty good extra-Biblical evidence that Jesus was crucified by the Romans, since it appears in Josephus (a pro-Roman Jewish historian), The Jewish War, The Letters of Pliny the Younger, and, if memory serves, the Roman historian Tacitus, The Lives of the Ceasars. Given the fact that Roman and Jewish sources both talk about the event, I'm inclined to think this is pretty good corroboration for the basic factuality of the event, even if the story appears in Christian scripture. Second, a little bit of classics: the idea that Jesus was born of a virgin is based on a mistranslation from Hebrew to Greek when the Septuagint translation was made of the Tanakh. The Hebrew word that appears in Isaiah can be translated as either virgin or young woman, but in Greek the word has the meaning of virgin. Neither St. Paul, who provides the earliest writings in the Christian scriptures or the Gospel of Mark, which is the earliest of the Synoptic Gospels, mentions a virgin birth, which leads one to think that such a belief is not foundational to Christianity, although the cult of the Virgin Mother of Jesus does become important by the 4th century C.E.--largely because in Hellenistic culture the idea of virgin birth was often associated with divinity. The idea of apotheosis (ascension into heaven) depends on a cosmology that is more than a little out of date but was common in antiquity. This is a metaphor--not a newspaper account. Metaphors are not taken to be factually true synthetic statements.

As an aside, I'm continually amazed that those who want to "disprove" Christianity as a religion read the Bible as literal scientific history in exactly the fashion as do the most extreme Biblical fundamentalists. They also miss the point that religion is not a matter of historical facticity but of faith. Faith, by definition, is not a factual matter. Statements of faith are not subject to the forms of verification favored by Carnap and the Vienna Circle. Ergo (for those who don't know, this is Latin for "therefore"), the appeal to apparent errors in Biblical historical facts to disprove matters of faith understand neither history, in which I have multiple advanced degrees, nor faith. Nor, for that matter, the various ways of using language other than in 2-value synthetic propositions, as explained by philosophers of language like A.J. Ayer or the later Wittgenstein. But, since atheism is as much a religion as Christianity, I don't suspect that the appeal to reason will shake their beliefs in nothingness any more than their appeal to ignorance shakes my belief in Something.

Answer 5

i think from your story, it seems like crucifixion was a norm back then, and to get people to acknowledge you requires you to admit that you're the son of God, and be born without an earthly father to show your freedom from an earthly heritage, so what's the big deal if Jesus was crucified? i mean, he's not the ONLY person who got that right?

The really big deal would be: Are christians doing enough for what they believe in? as a christian myself, i'm still not doing enough, commitments in my career has limited me from give more attention to what i believe in. very sad...

Answer 6

Wherever you found this is amazing...however, the fact that Jesus Christ existed is not the question. "Christianity" has not been disproven. It is simply if you believe in God or not. The reason that there are so many "religions" is that people make up their own beliefs instead of putting their faith in the Bible and the Bible alone. So, you find as many things as you can about disproving many religions, but to me there is a God and he sent his son, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for our sins and if you don't accept him as your personal Saviour there is a hell that is for Satan and all of his angels.

Answer 7

Believe what you want. You aren't shaking my faith. Look up the Messianic prophecies, then tell me who is the Messiah!
There's only ONE who fits. That is Jesus Christ, our Lord. Jesus said "Many will come in My name." and "Do not believe it"
Sorry, Jesus wins on this one, too!
What is BCE??????

Answer 8

Sounds like God has more than one child. Maybe he figures if he keeps repeating it, he will get the message across to more people. You've disproven nothing.

Answer 9

I am a christian and I don`t just believe in him just because of the bible,I have felt his presence and talked with him,make fun if you want,he is real!

Answer 10

Christianity has been disproved many times over. That won't stop people from believing it true.

Religion is based on emotional hooks, not rational arguments. So, any amount of evidence and reason won't sway many of them.