Saudi woman jailed after being raped, Saudi Govt responds?

Question

Ok anyone who reads now knows this story the story of the Saudi woman jailed and subject to 200 lashes for meeting a man she was not related too. She met the man to retrieve photographs and they were abducted and raped by 7 men. (Yes BOTH were raped).

Why was she punished, for meeting a man she was not related too? (Anyone know what happed to the male rape victim?)

This story has provoked outrage world wide, so the Saudi government now says that she was an adulteress and partially unclothed in the car when her and her friend were abducted and its ok because her husband approves of the punishment. All I can say is WTF? I guess that these men seeing her got so overcome they had to rape her and her companion!!!

Please explain to me how people with such a Stone Age mentality can be considered a primary ally to so many countries in the West. Our President (literally) walked hand in hand with the leader of this country How can we ignore these violations of human rights?

And please dont try to justify this by saying its the law, she knew it and didnt follow it.

First of all, most people in Saudi are not permitted to vote for thier lawmakers.

Secondly, codifying wrong in law cannot make it right. The right to own human beings was not only accepted culturally in much of the USA for 1/2 of its history it was also legalized. IT WAS STILL WRONG, just like this law is wrong.

And please dont try to justify this by saying its the law, she knew it and didnt follow it.

First of all, most people in Saudi are not permitted to vote for thier lawmakers.

Secondly, codifying wrong in law cannot make it right. The right to own human beings was not only accepted culturally in much of the USA for 1/2 of its history it was also legalized. IT WAS STILL WRONG, just like this law is wrong.

Alexanderferrari:

As Jesus said, why do you notice the plank in your eye, and ignore the board in your own. ARE YOU REALLY SAYING THIS IS OK BECAUSE WESTERNERS/WESTERN GOVERNMENTS DO BAD THINGS? It is my understanding that justice is a key precept of Islam. Is this truly justice? 1000 Abu Grahibs cant make what happened to this poor woman right.

Please review my follow up question if you like

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071126131223AAlZb6Z&r=w

Answer 1

Just another example of application of the "religion of peace".

Answer 2

Hello,

Of the 6 billion people in the world perhaps 1 billion people have the Western tradition. 5 billion others see and think in totally different ways and what is weird, stupid and unfair to us is acceptable to them and they think our ways are evil, rediculous and out to lunch. One of the biggest problems in the world today and before is that we do not learn or understand the logic, philosophies and ways other cultures and societies see the world and think they should conform along our lines. They will keep and hold these traditions and beliefs as tenaceously as America will keep to the persuit of happiness and apple pie.

In Saudi they have these rules and a lady only goes out in public with her husband or relatives but cannot go with a boyfriend or other male escort. I suppose they had the feeling that if you put yourself in a position like that when the s hit hits the fan, some will be lible to splatter on you. To the authorities this situation is somewhat like a girl who gets drunk and stoned at the pub and brings a strange man back to her dormitory at 2 am and when something bad happens, well what do you expect?

That said, the penalty for rape in Saudi Arabia is death by publuc beheading and that justice is fairly swift over there compared to here. Those thick headed rapists let their parts rule their brains and soon enough those thick heads of theirs will be dancing across a canvas mat with the public looking on.

Michael

Answer 3

Salaam Alaykum,
Humanitarian efforts are always are always blocked by Dictorial regimes. A United States soldier in Iraq raped a fourteen year old girl murdered her and her family in cold blood..his crime was uncovered and was given a life sentence in a cozy military prison. The United States gives billions of dollars to Israel and they rape, murder, and jail Palestinian people..destroy their homes with the occupants still inside..The United States also supplies Saudi Arabia with arms and weapons. If you can handle what Hosni Mubarak is doing to his people in Egypt watch the film "Yacoubian Building". In the United States prisoners of Guantanoma Bay were routinely sodomized and tortured. The United States is a country without mercy. Women in prison are raped in custody, and men sodomized too.
Go to www.ImpeachBush.org. But remember less than a mere forty years ago blacks had no rights and young women were raped and men lynched from trees. This is a violent society were women are raped,beaten, and murdered at least every few minutes a day get a watch and read the crime stats. The real joke here is that a dictator like Bush wants to
give democracy to Iraq..but bends at the will of those who he can benefit from regardless of the fact that they are corrupt dictators too! Why should it bother him he signed the death penalty on an innocent woman while Governer of Texas and had her executed before her appeal was overturned. If you know about middle eastern culture men who are victims of sodomy rarely ever speak about the incident and would rarely do so publicly. It happens a lot but too few men admit this as it is an extremely mental anguish to them because of the shame beyond all shame in Islamic society.
Wasalaam

Answer 4

OKay!!! It is a well known fact that this sort of thing goes on in Saudi Arabia and that the men can do what they like but the women cant. Havent you read the book "Death of a Princess"? Its a true story about modern day Saudi Arabia and what they did to that princess. It was reported in the papers when the princess was beheaded. There is one rule for men and another for women in that crazy country. They also bury live women behind walls and murder their own daughters if they meet strange men or have affairs. No one is going to do anything about it rest assured ...why? because of oil!!!! The world revolves round oil and the countries that provide it. The west needs oil and the Arabs have oil so the West turns a blind eye at what goes on in the Arab world.There are many many more things that would disgust you that goes on in the Arab world. I am not saying it doesnt happen in the west but at least the west is more open about it and the Arabs have double standards...one for men and one for women!!!!

Wolfkare....what you are in fact saying is that the Saudi women cannot control themselves. I am NOT a Saudi nor an Arab woman but I can trust myself to be alone with a man and I can vouch for myself that nothing would happen to me because I have that strength of character. I cannot believe for one minute that God (Allah...in your language and in mine though I am not a Moslem but an RC) would tell his people whom he so loved to cast stones at anyone and as you say...that God is there to judge...then what right do the people of Saudia have to stone people they are not supposed to judge? When Saudi men go to the west they often go with foreign women so why should that be ok for them and why are they not punished when the Saudi woman is tracked down mercilessly and finally punished by death for doing what the men have done? Surely it should be an eye for an eye....Why was the princess hounded and then beheaded...she was not married was she? What about the men who sleep with their grandmothers...isnt that a crime?Dont tell me it doesnt happen because it does!! What about the foreign servants that are "used" by your men also? Please dont quote the Koran because I find that offensive when you do so and try to absolve the doings of what men do in Saudi.

Answer 5

Terrible news, but old and gone over many times here. The initial sentence was for 90 lashes but was increased to 200 as she went to the press and that was taken as a challenge of Judaical authority.

This is a prime example for why legislating morality is a very bad thing for all citizens in a country; as is the more recent case where a teacher is accused of disrespect by allowing her students to name the class teddy "Muhammad".

Answer 6

Why was she punished, for meeting a man she was not related too? (Anyone know what happened to the male rape victim?)
She was punished because she committed Zina(Adultery). She confessed in her appeal that she was married and had sexual relations with a man who was not her husband. In Shariah Law an adulterous man or woman should be stoned to death so she should be grateful she didn't die. She was whipped 200 times and sentenced to 6 months in jail because she violated the law in Saudi Arabia and violated the laws of God. It is haraam(forbidden) for men and women to have friends of the opposite sex because they will do Zina if left alone together. This is to protect the women from herself and from the world. ALLAH(Subhanna wa ta'ala) knows women are weaker then men and that there are many dangers to women if they go outside alone or travel anywhere without one of their male family members. If you violate the laws of your country you deserve to be punished. I'm not sure what happened to her "lover". Everything about a woman is a source of temptation for men. A woman's beauty is meant for the eyes of her husband only. She knows this yet she decided to break the laws. Only ALLAH(Subhanna wa ta'ala) can judge her. This is not a violation of human rights. Shariah Law is laws derived from the Qur'an that God sent down to mankind as their form of Government. She was punished because she lied to the courts, embarressed the judge, made Saudi Arabia out to be a "bad" country, comitted Zina, and used the international media in her appeal. I am married to a Saudi man and have family in Saudi Arabia. My husband has only hit me once in our 1 year marriage and that was because I wanted to know how he was supposed to punish me if I disobeyed him. He treats me like a queen. My mother in law, and sister in laws have never been hit by my father in law. My mother in law is treated like a queen by her husband and sons. Islam is not a "stone age mentality" and neither are Saudi people! Saudi Arabia is a monarchy. That means Saudi Arabia is ruled by a King. No one votes in a monarchy.

Answer 7

Governments do whatever is expedient. The Saudi government is awash in fundementalism, and therefore has no interest in treating this as a violation of any kind. They walk the fence of extremism every day. They can't afford to make them angry, or the royal house would surely fall.

Answer 8

Let the heathens run their world. Follow Christ.

Answer 9

I am speechless.