Food laws and NOAH??????

Question

In the Bible if you read the story of Noah it is easy to find the list of animals that were instructed to be put on the boat.
If you look at this list, God tells Noah to bring
"two of every unclean animal and seven pairs of every clean animal..."
Later in the Bible the food laws are laid out in much more detail.
This brings one to think that even Noah knew the food laws.

Now, the reason that would even be important, would be because IF the food laws STARTED in Leviticus and they started with the levitical preisthood, then they would be of no use anymore, BUT if they DID NOT start with the levitical preisthood, and were always around, they would still be in effect today.

I think this is an important thought, tell me what you think...

Thanks :)

The question is, how did he know which ones were clean if there weren't and already known law on what was clean and what wasn't, and if there were already a law, and God said these things are clean and holy and the others aren't, then why would he say 'but eat the unclean food, because you aren't holy and deserve unclean food...'

Maej - Thank you,
yes we do all know that peter had a drea/vision, but what we don't all know is what happened next in the story.
When you don't understand a word you look at it's context, that is what should be done here.
Peter did not understand the dream, and wondered about it for awhile, very soon after he awoke, there were people at his door, he had been sent for by a GENTILE who wanted him to preach the Gospel to him...
Peter said ' the lord has told me not to make anything he has made clean unclean' and went with the man.

Obviously Peter understood that God was talking about the GENTILES and not food in any way.

Yes, big thumbs up to coffee pot 12!!!

I am Christian not Jewish, but I like what was said about the law being oral tradition as well as written, this I believe fully. God very well could have told his people to do things (and did I will add) before the time of Moses, they just weren't written down yet.

The facts are that alot of Christians think that Jesus died to save them FROM THE LAW, which is false, Jesus came to save us from the "law's consequence" which would be death "the punishment for all sin is death" Because Jesus came, we are allowed to not be perfect and still be saved, all we have to do is accept Jesus in our hearts and we go directly to heaven, the kicker here is that God didn't abolish the law, he rid us of the consequence of death, but the law is still in our best interest. Like it is in your best interest not to do something stupid like shoot a political leader, (which is against the law and very stupid), laws are meant to protect.

Trk -
After the FALL (not the flood the fall)
animals were eaten, although probably not before. After the fall God said to Adam to subdue the earth, and that he would have to work and plant and *kill* for his food.
He probably around this time (if not before) gave the laws of what was clean and unclean, remember, God and Adam spoke frequently.

Before the flood Animals were eaten as food, but only clean animals, Noah ate Kosher.

By the way, what is the dictionary definition of Kosher? Like Hebrew definition or whatever, just curious, I know it means clean with regards to the food laws.

Answer 1

the food laws are common sense and common health....these have been around since the beginning of time.....

certain things were never meant to be eaten as food and there did not appear to be necessary to write down common sense "do not do this"....

man is very stupid and stubborn, if he can put it in his mouth he will eat it....and demand seconds....

people have purposely misinterpreted and taken verses out of contest to give themselves permission to eat unclean which has lead to unhealthy people,,,,

the food laws of the old testament apply today as much as they did yesterday......

Answer 2

The answer to the food law question is simple. Your body is a temple for Christ, is it not? If this is so then what you put into your body must glorify Christ. Do you believe with faith that it is okay to eat potato chips everyday or do you think maybe some green beans would be a better choice? Do you think God wants you to eat beef which actually has more fat than pork or do you suppose we should lay off that and stick to turkey or fish meat? Do you believe with faith that it is ok to eat meat or do you feel convicted every time you eat it? If it is not done through faith it is a sin. This would be one instance that it depends on your personal faith. If you believe it's wrong to eat dinner at 10:00 p.m. because the food will take a long time to digest when you go to sleep, then eating at 10:00 is in fact a sin. If you believe eating at 10:00 is okay because you want to go visit with your loved one (maybe in the hospital/at their house/to a movie) then it would be wrong if you started eating at 8:00. If it is not done through faith it is not suppose to be done. So in answer to this question. Noah did not need laws. He did it based on faith. Whether God wrote down a list or not I don't know. However, I personally think (though not certain) that Noah picked animals by faith in the same manner that I just described. Hope this helps. 8^D

Answer 3

Great question.

Found this on wiki that may explain it. The point here is that Oral Law could have been handed down since Adam but wasn't written until Moses.

Although the Hebrew term "Torah" is often translated as "Law", its actual meaning is "Instruction" or "Teaching". Rabbinic Judaism holds that the books of the Tanakh were transmitted in parallel with an oral tradition, as relayed by the scholarly and other religious leaders of each generation. Thus, in Judaism, the "Written Instruction" (Torah she-bi-khtav תורה שבכתב) comprises the Torah and the rest of the Tanakh; the "Oral Instruction" (Torah she-be'al peh תורה שבעל פה) was ultimately recorded in the Talmud (lit. "Learning") and Midrashim (lit. "Interpretations"). The interpretation of the Oral Torah is thus considered as the authoritative reading of the Written Torah. Further, Halakha (lit. "The Path", frequently translated as "Jewish Law") is based on a "Written Instruction" together with an "Oral Instruction". Jewish law and tradition is thus not based on a literal reading of the Tanakh, but on the combined oral and written tradition.

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Kosher:
Kashrut (also kashruth or kashrus, כַּשְרוּת) refers to Jewish dietary laws. Food in accord with halakha (Jewish law) is termed kosher in English, from the Hebrew term kashér, meaning "fit" (in this context, fit for consumption by Jews according to traditional Jewish law).

Answer 4

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Answer 5

The 7 pairs of clean animals, while later included in the dietary laws, were singled out here for use as sacrifices. One of the first things Noah did after the flood was to build an altar and offer sacrifices to God. If he had only 1 pair of each, he would ahve caused that species extinction.

Answer 6

Noah didn't eat animals before the flood, however, they did have animal sacrifices. Able sacrificed a lamb to God. Only the clean animals were to be sacrificed.
Gen. 4:4; Gen. 9:1-4

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When Adam sinned this is what God told him at Gen. 3:17-19 "...cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. And thorns and thistles it will grow for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for ouit of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return."

There is NO mention of God giving Adam permission to eat meat. However, at Gen. 9: 1-4 God gave Noah permission to eat all living creatures. "And God went on to bless Noah and his sons and to say to them: "Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. And a fear of you and a terror of you will continue upon every living creature of the earth and upon every flying creature of the heavens, upon everything that goes moving on the ground, and upon all the fishes of the sea. Into your hand they are NOW given. Every moving aniaml that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. Only flesh with its soul- it's blood - you must not eat."

God even told Noah before the flood to "take for yourself every sort of food that is eaten, and you must gather it to yourself, and it must serve as food for you and for them (speaking of animals)." Gen. 6:21 So the animals also ate vegetation, or they would have been trying to eat each other. Some of the clean animals were offered up as sacrifices to God at Gen. 8:20 "And Noah began to build an altar to Jehovah and to take some of all the clean beasts and of all the clean flying creatures and to offer burnt offerings upon the alter."

I would assume that God told Adam which animals were considered clean and he passed it one to his sons, since Able's sacrifice was pleasing to God. I'll have to do some reserve on the matter.

Answer 7

Boy! coffee_pot12, if I could give you a bigger thumbs up -- I would do so! Praise God and Amen for your response! I couldn't have said it much better, myself. That just made my day. I believe you are in perfect harmony with the Full Scriptures and with God. Thanks.

But, lay off the coffee! ;-)

Answer 8

Re-read story of Noah to see:
God is not LORD, 2 is not 7,
Merciful is not Sacrifice,
Grace is not Law.

Grace with you all. Amen...Hebrews 13:25
But not the partiality grace in story of Noah,
is listed in the hall of shame of Hebrews 11.
So: The GRACE of our Lord JC: Rev 22:21.

Answer 9

The OT food laws aren't applicable to us today. It doesn't matter how or when they originated. The food laws Noah had were laws to protect the people from disease. They had nothing to do with morality.

Answer 10

ok. food laws does exists in the old testament.. but we all know that God appeared to Peter in a dream and told him to eat those foods the old testament labelled as unclean.