Christians, please explain this, in plain language:?

Question

Does this not say that parents should kill their own children if they disobey?
The Old Testament

He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. -- Leviticus 20:9

From Deuteronomy

21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them

21:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21:21 And all the men of his city shall ▲stone him with stones, that he die: ▲so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Answer 1

Well that part is just symbolic or we cannot know God's ways are typical answers that could be given for this. You weren't supposed to catch this stuff.

Answer 2

In the Old Testament , God was preparing Israel to bring the Messiah into the world' consequently, great restrictions were placed upon them for the obvious reasons; Godly parents were to be looked upon as a symbol of God; in other words; if children would curse their parents they would as well curse God, for the former symbolized the latter.

We are no longer under Law, Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law at the Cross, We are now under Grace, Saved by Faith, not by ones Works or Law.

So to answer your question, Yes that is exactly what the Old Testament says, but keep in mind that does not apply to the believer today. Because we are no longer under Law but Grace. Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, Now we are saved by Grace not Law.

Answer 3

The new testement shows that Jesus Christ our Lord and ***SAVIOR*** saved us not from the law itself, but from the punishment for breaking the law.
The punishment for sin (in general, all sin) is death, Jesus saved us from that punishment, now we are to keep the law because we are greatful to God and it is here to protect us.

Also, the laws you are refering to were for the Isrealites in the dessert and are very closely tied to the levitical preisthood, during this time these things were to be followed to keep things the right way for the savior to come. Also, one sinner easily corrupted them all, so they must be kept apart.

NOTE: the laws still exist the punishments are the only thing that has been removed, also the priesthood was removed along with sacrifices as Jesus was the altimate sacrifice and no more are needed.

For the record, this does not have any direct connotation to any food laws that were in place, as they had been in place since the vary begining, (which is shown in the fact that NOAH knew which animals were clean and unclean - bring 7 pairs of clean animals and 2 unclean)...

Children are to respect their parents, their parents can punish them, ground them ect, if they do not, the harsh punishments have been liften, if you read your new testement this is appearent.
This is why I am a Christian and not a Jew, ask Jews the same question, I am curious to see what they would answer, as they believe the torah which is the first five books of the Bible, which is what you are quoting from.

Note: Christians believe the first five books along with the rest of the books, Jews only believe the first five books (written by moses).

Jessica - feel free to email

Answer 4

Old Testament laws were different then. The elders of the city were given authority by God to enforce God's laws. The penalty for certain sins was death, and the elders are enforcing that sentance. What it means is that parents should not put their children above the law, but understand that no matter who does the sinning, the obligation is to bring them to the elders.

Answer 5

those are not contradictions. God popular Judah, yet did not use his means to assist them win. they ought to target this themselves, we gained't basically count number on God for each little thing we ask of him. God did not lose to iron Chariots , Judah did. Its like affirming even regardless of the reality that an outstanding football team prayed earlier they went on the container would not recommend they gained't lose or they ought to not ought to target. God is all-powerful, so what? What does that ought to do something? you nonetheless ought to target. have you ever idea that perchance God provides us the means when we try? also even as in a Biblical argument, try no longer to placed New testomony scriptures alongside with previous testomony scriptures, they in certain situations contradict themselves as there's a timeline. it truly is a chance that contained in the former testomony, something may were a sin, yet then Jesus or yet another being took that and reformed it. The bible portrays diverse issues at diverse circumstances. It, surely, is depending off time and progression. get jointly: earlier Christ Named Saint Peter the ruler of the Church after Christ left, Christ held all authority. After Christ left, Peter had the Authority of the Church. for this reason, you always can not study 2 scriptures that ought to do with the means of God's Church that are from 2 seperate dates. One claims Christ has Authoirty, the different will declare Peter( simon) has the Authority. both , if no longer believed or examine, could contradict eachother.

Answer 6

That was in the old testament where parents could have put their children to death. In the new testament however, God's Son is there to take on all the sins so there is no need for putting children to death.

Answer 7

God established the Old Covenant through Moses. These are just a few of the many laws and instructions that God gave to His children. Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant and brought the New Covenant to God's people. His death established the New Covenant and we live under its direction today. In plain language, we are not subject to the scriptures you mention.

Of course, it deserves saying that God did expect exceptional behavior from children and death was a consequence of disobedience. That should be encouragement enough for some children to change their behavior.

Today, we respond to God by serving Him out of love. He's done so much for us, we can't help but act like He wants us to. I think that's His goal for children. He wants to see their love for Him and their parents to be so great that they obey as they've been instructed.

Answer 8

People are dumb....Thats why God gave moses a total of 613 reasons to stone someone.
The Hebrews would witness a miracle, then in the same day curse God and sin with intensity.

People would be stoned, and this would keep some sort of government intact for the young religion, and kingless people.

All these rules faded with time, and through the evolution of government for the Jews.

And ultimately, Jesus would turn laws inside out and ask us to obey the HEART of the law, and not the letter...

thats why today we spank with love, not stone out of fear

Answer 9

Israel was like a start-up company, or a small army in battle. In these situations the rules are stringent, tough, highly disciplined. To allow dissension in the early stages of formation is to threaten the survival of the entire enterprise. The house that is against itself, can not stand. How much dissension, rule breaking, can your young family take before it is ruined?

Later, after the solid establishment of the venture, the rules are more relaxed, the discipline more corrective, more spiritual than lawful.

I tried to keep it in plain words, not biblical.

Answer 10

Okay, first of all, you're addressing CHRISTIANS. Do you know, do you understand the concept of an OLD testament, as opposed to a NEW testament? A testament is a set of rules. Jesus was of the NEW testament. He realized that the OLD testament was flat out WRONG. Don't be blaming Christians for the old testament. The Old Testament is part and parcel of the current religion of Judaism.

Answer 11

It's more an argument for giving equal punishment to children as adults in some cases.
The parts from Deuteronomy are for the those who cannot be rehabilitated.

As for the parts from Exodus; they're more discussing violence towards one's parents, not disobediance. They're from a section on violence, not on children.