This question is mainly for those who already believe in an afterlife and for those who perhaps believe that animals or other organisms have an afterlife besides Humans. If the consciousness is immortal just as Near Death Exp research suggests, (I am aware that it may just be the process of the dying brain, however for arguments sake lets discuss the alternative), and a cloned animal/human is conscious through man made manipulation, which assumingly means the cloned animal does not have an afterlife...do you think that the fact that a conscious cloned animal discredits a naturalistic conscious animal from the possiblity of an afterlife? What logic would you use to conclude that a natural animal still has an afterlife even if a cloned animal can replicate naturalistic living. I would presume that if there is an afterlife it can't just be an immortal consciousness we and/or animals possess if cloning is possible. So there would have to be some sort of difference, both will possess energy and consciousness. I am aware that the question can be spun and turned back on its asker in many areas especially involving what is truly "consciousness" or utilizing God within religions, etc etc. So please just try to answer the question the best you can by staying with the core of the question. I apologize if the question appears scattered and not fully clear.
2007-11-26 02:03:09 · 10 answers · asked by Nautica™ 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Example of the hypothetical
Creator = Life = Consciousness = afterlife
Man = Clone = Life = Consciousness = afterlife?
2007-11-26 02:05:24 · update #1
Can you tell me where the clones are living I'd love to meet them
2007-11-26 02:07:37 · answer #1 · answered by ! 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If we could clone Dolly, the sheep, could Noah have kept cloning material on the ark, instead of the actual animals, and then reanimated them after the flood was over? If we ever clone a human, will they be good, or will they be liars and deceivers, since they aren't actually who they say they are, being created instead of born, right? It's really all about perspective. According to the scripture, upon entering into the Kingdom of God, we will be given glorious new bodies that are better than the ones we have now. That basically makes everything that atheists are saying about this life true. Doesn't mean that there isn't an afterlife, it simply means that we can choose whether or not we want to take part in it. It is also my understanding that condemnation to hell is an everlasting fate, not an everlating punishment of the dead. Being dead means dead. Getting cremated in a lake of fire doesn't change that. And those who are taken up aren't same people that we are. They are given a new name, written in stone that no one else really knows but them who receive it. So, basically, it's who we're not. Simply put, it's a life choice.
2016-05-26 00:11:30 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
From a Christian view point: My own
I don’t think that anything…animal or human cloned would be granted an after life.
Cloning is of physical attributes and genetic traits, I would doubt that the spirit of a person could be cloned. If God (and I believe) is the creator of each spirit and the Bible tells us he is then we can not duplicate the most important part of the body. Although cloning may produce a human form, but if it is void of spirit can it then make a decision to choose Jesus as its Lord and Savior as the Bible states that the word of God is written in every man? The spirit of a human is the life of a human. If it can not choose God, then it would have no afterlife in God.
God –Jesus –Man- decision to accept Christ – Afterlife
God – Jesus – Clone – lacking spirit (as God makes one for each person) – No afterlife
From a Christian view the spirit is the essence of the Body…it is the only part that continues to live.
There is a first death and a second death. The first death is that of the body, the second death is that of a spirit. If the spirit is found to be unassociated with God it will be put in to the lake of fire.
I’m not sure if I answered you question, but I found it interesting.
Faith
2007-11-26 06:21:26 · answer #3 · answered by ' 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
From what I understand about cloning, the only difference between a clone and a non clone is that a clone has the exact same DNA as someone else. They still have to grow inside a womb and they are still born. Its not like in the movies where you walk into a machine and another one of you, who is exactly the same comes out.
2007-11-26 02:13:46 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
A clone would not be the same individual. It's just a twin. If there is such a thing as a soul, it would have one of it's own. It has nothing to do with an afterlife.
BTW, "near-death" experiences can be experience by people who are nowhere near death. It doesn't prove a soul either.
2007-11-26 02:23:03 · answer #5 · answered by Robin W 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A clone will not have to same life experience as the original and we are what we have been made through our experiences so even tho it is a clone it will become something different that what is was cloned from so yes it will have an afterlife.
Not to bad for "on the spot" philosophy if I do say so myself.
2007-11-26 02:11:27 · answer #6 · answered by Yup it's me! 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think that a cloned human would have an entirely different conscious just like identical twins do.
2007-11-26 02:09:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No.
But human cloning damages the dignity of humans.
The Catholic Church has the highest regard for human life and human dignity from the beginning of life at conception until natural death.
Human cloning, that is the creation of a human embryo through scientific means, does injury to the dignity of humanity. Will these children be brought up in loving families or treated as laboratory experiments or sources for spare parts?
Every human being is entitled to human rights including cloned human embryos. If created, they should be treated with the same rights and respect of any other human being as a child of God.
The Catholic Church is not just against cloning, it is pro-life in the widest sense. This is often called a "Consistent Ethic of Life."
This pro-life stance stresses the highest regard for dignity of human life including that of:
- All people in objecting to unjust war and nuclear arms.
- The unborn in objecting to to abortion, in fitro fertilization, frozen embryos, embryonic stem cell research, and cloning
- The elderly, sick and dying in objecting to assisted suicide and euthanazia
- Prisoners in objecting to the death penalty
- The poor and minorities in supporting social justice issues.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 2270 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect2chpt2art5.htm#2270
and: http://www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/bioethic/index.shtml
and: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_academies/acdlife/index.htm
With love in Christ.
2007-12-03 07:20:01 · answer #8 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Bodies are there for spirit to experience.
It is not relevant where these bodies come from.
In the end everything returns to the source, there is nowhere else to go..
Love and blessings Don
2007-11-26 02:07:25 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't see how it would. It really is no different than an identical twin.
The lack of any evidence for an afterlife does though.
2007-11-26 02:09:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋