2 easy points here, but is a good question for R&S as well. Atheists, Agnostics and Faithful welcome.?

Question

O.K. hows about this then?
Scientists reckon they can use a telescope to see the big bang happening, right?
Well, is what they are seeing accurate?
if so, how accurate?
accurate to within a century, a decade, a year, 6 months, one month, two weeks?
or how about accurate to within 7 days? because if it is, is it so impossible that that seven day margin have included God creating the earth?
i dont think so
now sit back and watch the atheists try to squirm out of that

Ok, Ok so i could have worded it better, but dont you get the point?
we cannot know, we were not there so people who say "i have worked out" are obviously making a guess, an informed guess maybe, but nonetheless a guess.
fortunately we have a written account of what happened at the time.
the book of Genesis
is in the Bible

whoever it was that said, do i worship some other Gods - Yes, to me all Gods are one

and for those of you who had a go at me for saying it was a telescope that can see the big bang, that is what i heard fro a atheist who was trying to attack christians and other believers on Y! answers

Answer 1

Go ask in physics and you can do the squirming, far less smug than you are here. They'll howl with laughter over your poorly worded question.

Answer 2

Why are you picking on Atheists ? They are not the only ones who do not accept the Judeo Christian 7 day Creation idea.

If you have a science question try asking it here:

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My understanding is that the scientists ( 1 or 2 of whom are Christian ) have calculated theories about how all the matter in the universe could occupy a tiny space ( the super string Theory ) . The Theory does not break any laws of physics and gives an explanation of the universe from 1 second old.

The only thing we can ‘ see ‘ dating back to the time of the Big Bang is the left over background radiation.

There is nothing in your question to ' Squirm ' out of since your original assumptions were incorrect. . Even if there was a 7 day Gap , this would be a mere correlation - just like the fall in the number of Pirates has led to Global warming , ( that is what the Pastafarians believe ) Correlation does not equal causation.

Answer 3

This requires some thought. You're asking how accurate the telescope is, that scientists will use to see the big bang. And you want the accuracy stated not in terms of image clarity, but in... days? So this telescope has some sort of time gauge on it. Okay, sounds reasonable.

Now, I have no idea how accurate the a telescopic time gauge might be, now or in the future. So let's say, "accurate within 1000 years."

So then, if the machine tells us that the big bang happened in the year "x," we should conclude that it occurred sometime in "x plus or minus 1000 years."

And you're saying that maybe, sometime during that span of 2000 years were the seven days that G-d created the earth? Presumably before, during, or after the big bang? And this proves what?

Incidentally, I'm not an atheist. I'm just sincerely confused about the point you're trying to make.

Answer 4

hahaha 0- that doesnbt make me squirm even a tuiny bit - for a start the official christian view is that the world is 4000 years old. What ive always wandered is 'if god made the world 4000 years ago than why is there SO much evidense on the contrary'? what eould be the point in that? surely hed want us to believe....

anyway, when i read Angels and Daemons i found out that some christians argue that the big bang was god - and as a reasonable person, this view i can accept - i dont believe it, but i would acceopt it as it makes sense. I disagree becuase it causes us to ask an even bigger more complicated question, and that is 'where does god come from'

Now if christians belived the big bang - god thing, than i would pu my hands up and say 'yeah ok, makes sense' - BUT unfortunately most of you guys dont even believe in evolution

Answer 5

Ok aside from the questionable phrasing i think there may be a halfdecent point in there on the basis that believe it or not light doesnt move at the speed of light very often, ergo if they tried to use a visual method of viewing the bigbang it would take about 20 Steve Hawkings to work out what time they could see. And for that he would have to stop writing childrens books.

And also, if theyre viewing the effects not the event then isnt that making a post-event judgement which 99% of scientists will claim is fallable at best the rest of the time?

Answer 6

Good Question...and i read a lot of funny answers!
looks like you stirred more questions than answers.

Are you saying you believe in what those scientists are saying? without even questioning their validity? Or would you rather study and learn from what they are sayin? the "Big Bang" is a theory...do you know what a THEORY is?

Study and learn...that's the key!

The Heaven and the Earth (both are code names) were created at a moment where time and space doesn't yet exist! so how can you say They were created in 7 days? is that a 24-hr period? By the way, creation took place in 6 days not 7, read your bible again!

That's the problem with belief...you learn nothing! You don't even know that the Bible is 'Life's User's Manual'! The man who wrote it did not intend to write a historical book. They don't even care about this world, so why would they write something of this World? They teach us to seek the Upper World (using this World). According to a wise sage, not one word in the Bible refers to a thing in this world. The words written there refers to objects in the spiritual world. so you see, you need to look for authentic teachers of the Bible---those who have seen reality, viewed from the spiritual world!

In fact, teachers of this ancient wisdom calculated the age of the universe to be over 15B yrs old, using the book "Sefer Yetsira" believed to be written by Abraham, the Patriarch! Ask the scientists how old the unverse is.

You will learn a lot of things in the Bible (in fact, all of the things that has to be known) if you will just study with an authentic teacher, and not from hearsays or guesses. Days, months, years, tent, family, etc., all refer to objects that are not of this world.

Don't worry about those scientists---they also don't know how to study anything out of this world! They, like most of us, can only rely on the 5 senses to observe the world outside of us. Therefore, they can only study the material...not the immaterial. You cannot see ultraviolet rays---does that mean that UV's don't exist? Any instrument we invent to detect these phenomena is only geared to convert it to something that can be perceived by our 5 senses.

Only living people asks question, dead ones don't care. therefore, wouldn't it be better if your question would be:
Why am i alive? What are we here for? What is the meaning of my life??? (or something of that sort).

Hope you can find the real answer to your questions...!

Answer 7

So far, telescopes have seen back to about half a billion years after the big bang. When and if an instrument can see all the way back, the limit will be quite accurate, as the accuracy increases as you get to the beginning.

What has been seen is an echo of the big bang, the cosmic microwave background.

Answer 8

The strength of your arguement is staggering. Yes, god could have created the Earth in seven days. It's just as likely that there is a world where three-foot tall halflings have to ensure that a magical ring is dropped into a fiery volcano.

Answer 9

They have it figured up to about a 1,000th of a second after the big bang. It's not that they can see it happen through a telescope, but that they can see what is happening and can use mathematics to extrapolate what must have happened to result in the events that are currently happening.

Of course, current in astronomy is a lot different that what we assume because of the speed of light and the distances we're talking about, but that's the easiest way of putting it.

Now seriously, go ask this in physics or astronomy because they really know the answers, whereas most of us are just giving you what we learned on the discovery channel.

Answer 10

That's not how it works. They don't "see" anything, and especially not the Big Bang. They observe the effects.

Honestly, I have no idea where you get this information from. Strawman attack comes to mind though.

And the bible doesn't exempt itself from the situation you mentioned. It was written by people, and they weren't there either.

Answer 11

I haven't squirmed for many years. Last time was when I was sent to the headmaster over something trivial.
Sure as dog made little green apples, I'm not squirming now.
I'm fidgeting a bit, if that comforts you. I think there's a twist in my shorts.