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Is it true that all we need is an open system with sufficient energy flowing into it for evolution to succeed? All I want is a yes or a no. I'm, how would you say "interested" in Evolution.

2007-11-25 09:33:56 · 11 answers · asked by Defender of Freedom 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Because if this is true, then one could just stand right behind a jet engine as the aircraft prepares for takeoff, absorb that blast of energy, and evolve to a higher life form. In reality, of course, one would be incinerated because absorbing energy without a mechanism to convert it to a useful form and employ it is destructive or useless.

2007-11-25 09:41:34 · update #1

11 answers

No you're not. Or you wouldn't have wanted a yes or no answer.

2007-11-25 09:37:45 · answer #1 · answered by punch 7 · 5 0

I believe you are referring to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which the anti-evolution forces say is violated by it, but it isn't because the Earth is NOT a closed system, and the Second Law of Thermodynamics requires a closed system. With energy from the Sun being a constant source of energy influx from the outside, it does not violate this law.

As to whether or not energy would have to flow into the system I believe the answer would have to be yes - organizing biological structures takes energy, and in a closed system it would eventually turn to just heat, probably, and heat alone will not arrange cell components. Good question = star.

2007-11-25 17:41:20 · answer #2 · answered by Paul Hxyz 7 · 1 0

"all we need is a open system with an energy flow", no, that sounds like it's a bit restrictive as you would need that system to include the right building blocks etc, however, it is a more appropriate description of what the universe is under the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Edit:
If you are really interested in how the laws of thermodynamics apply to this world and specifically to evolution you an ask in the science sections, most likely the physics one. You can also read summaries in the link below.

Edit 2:
Cool link, mama_pajama_1! Thanks for posting it, I'll peruse it later.

Edit 3:
Just read your additional details. No, you are completely and intentionally misunderstanding the principles. The logical extreme agruement is only used with pure logic not with scientific principles based on fact. Come back when you understand the difference between them.

2007-11-25 17:40:59 · answer #3 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 1 0

No.

I change my mind from my reflex answer. The system must be of sufficient size and mass, with a mix of elements. The energy must be utilizable by the system (for example, if the radiation passes though the system unabsorbed, it is meaning less. Lastly, evolution could occur in a closed system, as creature utilize energy that was present before the system became closed.

ADDENDUM:
Keep the jet engine running for a few billion years, and something might develop that can utilize the energy.

2007-11-25 17:37:43 · answer #4 · answered by novangelis 7 · 4 0

Instead of flaming you, or deriding your comments, I would like to make a suggestion : do some reading about the subject, and include books from both atheist authors (like Richard Dawkins) and also by those who believe in some form of higher power (like Francis S. Collins). Just make sure that the books you read are written by scientists, and you will find that evolution is accepted by believers and non-believers. About the only people who do not support evolution anymore are hard core fundamentalists. But it is important to note that evolution does not prove that there is no God, nor does it prove or disprove anything of a spiritual nature. It merely explains how we evolved from lower life forms. People make the mistake of thinking that if you believe in evolution, you reject God and the Bible, but that simply is not true.

2007-11-26 10:39:42 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Obviously standing next to a jet engine and taking it in the face is just going to carbonise you, the same would be true if you were to stand near the Sun. Place that jet engine about 30 metres away though and you'd have something to keep you warm in the winter. Moderation is the key here - enough energy to keep life going but too much and you risk destroying it.

2007-11-26 11:45:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes. For most life on Earth, the sun fulfills the roleof the energy source.

2007-11-25 17:50:38 · answer #7 · answered by Eiliat 7 · 1 0

Your question does not compute. It is illogical.

Now that I'm done with my Robbie the Robot answer..

You appear to want to mix physics and cosmology with biology.

Evolution happens in living species, through the exchange of genetic material in reproduction. It is the change over time.

This question is under the wrong heading COMPLETELY. It has nothing to do with religion and spirituality. Evolution is about Biology.

Do you also call people who understand the theory of gravity...gravitationalists?
How about those who understand germ theory? Are they germologists?

http://www.actionbioscience.org/ < GREAT place to learn about Biology and new advances brought about in medicine, genetics and bioengineering that will affect the future of our planet through application of understanding processes of evolutionary theory.

Shalom

2007-11-25 17:41:32 · answer #8 · answered by ✡mama pajama✡ 7 · 2 0

All life need an energy source. Even life at the bottom of the ocean needs an external energy source.

2007-11-25 17:38:13 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

wow you got evolution all ****** up!! go read a book on evolution, their is no open flow of energy causing the change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-11-25 17:47:19 · answer #10 · answered by ஐKatஐ 3 · 2 1

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