Hey Roman Catholics......your foundation is destroyed!?

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Peter had always been known as a stone, not the Rock!

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art pet'ros (a stone), and upon this petra (πέτρα, ROCK, meaning upon Jesus Christ Himself) I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

NOW FROM THE VERY MOUTH OF JESUS:
John 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, He said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone (Greek: pet'ros, Πέτρος). Can we disagree with the very words of Jesus Christ or His interpretation? According to the Scriptures, Jesus affirms that Simon Peter is Cephas, a stone (Greek: pet'ros, Πέτρος).

Simon Peter = cephas (??Aramaic) = a stone (Jesus’ interpretation) = pet'ros = Greek = pet’ros = Peter
In the whole of the New Testament, the word ‘Peter’ occurs in 156 verses (162 hits); and every time it occurs, the word in Greek for Simon Peter is pet'ros!

SHOW JUST ONCE, THAT PETER = PETRA

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JESUS IS THE ROCK, PETRA
1Co 10:4 …. for they drank of that spiritual Rock… and that Rock (petra, πέτρα; a mass of rock) was Christ.
Christ = petra = ROCK
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I am continuously amazed by the recalcitrance!
See what Cephas (in Aramaic) means in John1:42, by which what the Lord Jesus interpreted for us......a stone (petros)!

Cephas (Aramaic) = a stone (Jesus’ interpretation) = pet'ros = Peter

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The Lord Jesus, knowing our recalcitrance and stiffneckedness interpreted Aramaic to Greek for us.......is that not simple???

Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.


Simon = Cephas = pet'ros = Peter


Name one occasion that petra = Peter!!!


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Answer 1

There are three key Petrine texts found in the New Testament. You have shown the first one in Mt 16:18-19, but also Luke 22:31-32 ans John 21:15-17.

Here is the thing about the Mt 16:18-19 verse, you are alluding to it yourself. That being that this passage has a strong Aramaic substructure. This gives strong witness to this passage having been passed on from original witnesses, since Aramaic was the language of Palestine at the time. We have a play on here. The play on words with "rock" (you are Peter [Rock] and on this rock") works perfectly in Aramaic, where "kepha" appears in both places. The noun kepha means simply "rock" or "stone"* In Greek, it required to use the masculine form, "petros", because Simon Bar-Jonah is a male, thus the feminine form "petra", which would more clearly indicate "rock, wouldn't be used.

"Cephas" is a transliteration into Greek the Aramaic word "Kepha", this is part of your mistake. The use of "powers of death", "flesh and blood" and Simon Bar-Jonah" are all examples in this passage thatreveal the Aramiac origins.

The Old Testament makes clear that "rock" is reserved for God. There are also passages that use "father", "lord", "king" and "judge" to describe God, but only "rock" is reserved for God alone. No Jew was ever given Rock as a name. Jesus, calling Simon-Bar Jonah, "Kepha", would have struck the listener as being irrevernt then. This use of the term "Kepha", just as in the Old Testament when God renamed Abram "Abraham", Gen 17:5 (see also Gen 17:15 and Gen 32:38) therefore, was a sign of a new mission for Simon. It signified that God was intervening in history to alter events so that His plan would be realized.

Other texts help bolster this understanding. John 1:42 and Gal 2:7,9. Both use "Cephas" (remember, this is a transliteration of the Aramaic "kepha" stone or rock).

Answer 2

Q1) for the comparable reason Jesus replaced into baptized, even although He had no sin to be cleansed from. It replaced into setting up and proper to do it. Q2) by using fact Mary DID want a Savior. the stainless concept could no longer have handed off devoid of Jesus saving Mary from sin. She in simple terms have been given her finished atonement in the beginning of her existence extremely of on the top of it, like something individuals do. Mary spoke the reality -- her soul did (and maintains to) improve the Lord and she or he rejoices in her Savior. P.S. The "beginning on Peter" is in no way destroyed, in simple terms because you assert so. who're you against 2,000 years of theological pupils? What are your credentials?

Answer 3

I copied this from my Strong's Concordance regarding the verse you quote:

NT:4074

Petros (pet'-ros); apparently a primary word; a (piece of) rock (larger than NT:3037); as a name, Petrus, an apostle:


KJV - Peter, rock. Compare NT:2786.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Answer 4

So then why did Jesus give the keys to the kingdom to Peter? Or are you also trying to say that Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom to himself? If Peter was not the leader of the Apostles please explain Acts chapter 15.

Answer 5

I see instruction but no resolution expressed of a point taken. Maybe I just missed something. I am guessing your beef is that RC claims to be THE church and you differ with its ex cathedra Moses Seat thing.. OKay.

Answer 6

The belief of the Catholics is wrong and the people were only misguided by the Roman Empire to force them to believe what the Romans believe who are partly pagan belief

.Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The church there refers to the people who believe Jesus Christ who will bind together to enter the kingdom of God in Heaven but not hell.

Answer 7

Verse 18. [And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter] The word "Peter," in Greek, means "a rock." It was given to Simon by Christ when he called him to be a disciple, John 1:42. Cephas is a Syriac word, meaning the same as Peter-a rock, or stone. The meaning of this phrase may be thus expressed: "Thou, in saying that I am the Son of God, hast called me by a name expressive of my true character. I, also, have given to thee a name expressive of your character. I have called you Peter, a rock, denoting firmness, solidity, stability, and your confession has shown that the name is appropriate. I see that you are worthy of the name, and will be a distinguished support of my religion."
[And upon this rock ...] This passage has given rise to many different interpretations. Some have supposed that the word "rock" refers to Peter's confession, and that Jesus meant to say, upon this rock, this truth that thou hast confessed, that I am the Messiah and upon confessions of this from all believers, I will build my church. Confessions like this shall be the test of piety, and in such confessions shall my church stand amid the flames of persecution, the fury of the gates of hell. Others have thought that Jesus referred to himself. Christ is called a rock, Isa 28:16; 1 Peter 2:8. And it has been thought that he turned from Peter to himself, and said, "Upon this rock, this truth that I am the Messiah-upon myself as the Messiah, I will build my church." Both these interpretations, though plausible, seem forced upon the passage to avoid the main difficulty in it. Another interpretation is, that the word "rock" refers to Peter himself.
This is the obvious meaning of the passage; and had it not been that the Church of Rome has abused it, and applied it to what was never intended, no other interpretation would have been sought for. "Thou art a rock. Thou hast shown thyself firm, and suitable for the work of laying the foundation of the church. Upon thee will I build it. Thou shalt be highly honored; thou shalt be first in making known the gospel to both Jews and Gentiles." This was accomplished. See Acts 2:14-36, where he first preached to the Jews, and Acts 10, where he preached the gospel to Cornelius and his neighbors, who were Gentiles. Peter had thus the HONOR of laying the foundation of the church among the Jews and Gentiles; and this is the plain meaning of this passage. See also Gal 2:9. But Christ did NOT mean, as the Roman Catholics say he did, to EXALT Peter to supreme authority above all the other apostles, or to say that he was the ONLY one upon whom he would rear his church. See Acts 15, where the advice of JAMES, and not that of Peter, was followed. See also Gal 2:11, where Paul withstood Peter to his face, because he was to be blamed-a thing which could NOT have happened if Christ (as the Roman Catholics say) meant that Peter was absolute and infallible. More than all, it is not said here, or anywhere else in the Bible, that Peter would have INFALLIBLE successors who would be the vicegerents of Christ and the HEAD of the church. The whole meaning of the passage is this: "I will make you the HONORED instrument of making known my gospel first to Jews and Gentiles, and I will make you a firm and distinguished preacher in building my church."

Answer 8

Did you know that the original Peter was a rabbit? That's why Easter is associated with chocolate eggs and bunnies. And it explains the pope's weird hat. The children's books by Beatrix Porter are the secret code protecting that fact.

Answer 9

Sorry. Jesus spoke Aramaic, not Greek, and the word He actually spoke from His mouth is KEPHA

Thou art KEPHA, and on this KEPHA I will build my Church.

Go learn something, then come back

Answer 10

when Jesus said Upon this rock I will build my church he was not talking about Peter himself, he was referring to Peters faith was as a rock, many are confused by this scripture.