Isn't it Religious to Call Religion "Wrong"?

Question

When one calls Religion "Wrong" aren't they establishing a "moral law" therefor establishing a religion?

If wrong means false then why do some say religion is "evil."

Aren't Ethics "a major branch of philosophy, encompasses right conduct and good life." AKA (int he religious world) sinful living and holy living?

How can one have a morale if it isn't universal. Does that mean there is no ultimate "right" and "wrong." If that's true, are there even morales to begin with?

o - aren't morales "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith" AKA "principles, teachings, or conduct". I don't see a contrast between the two.

Answer 1

Some silly bloke wrote:
"Wrong means false.
Saying that a god exists is false.
Because there's no evidence."

What a silly statement. Something can exist without you having evidence of it. It's like saying "there is no life on other planets" because there's no evidence. To say that it does exist isn't false, but rather unfounded. There is a difference.

Wrong can mean false, but it can also mean immoral or unnatural.

Answer 2

First, their is a difference between religion (a belief system) and a knowledge (or science based) system. Believers are SOOOO paranoid about their beliefs (and they worry incessantly about others NOT believing as they do) that they THINK that we are atheists in the same way that they are believers, ergo it must be a religion. Although there are SOME fundamental paraells in the structures of both systems, there are also FUNDAMENTAL differences in the basic approach. Given some concrete, verifiable, and testable evidence of a god, I would not hesitate to reconsider my position. Try to get a believer to say that. They would condemn such words out of hand as blasphemous. In other words, there is NO mechanism in thiner mind that will permit ANY consideration of ANY idea except what is taught to them as a child from a 2000 year old Jewish fairy tale. As to their "discrediting it", that is a silly notion. They only discredit themselves with their ignorant and parochial ideas. My ideas are from MY own independent observations and are not assailable by such silly arguments as are put forth by the saved.

Answer 3

Is an anarchist an orderly form of government, because it rejects organized government. or is it still organized becuase there is a group of people creating the chaos?

I don't think so. I think that when you reject the majority, you're not joining the minority, you are casting yourself out as an individual. Some may say, well if you are not part of the majority than you are part of the minority, which is true, BUT, what if you don't agree with the minority either? What if I say (assuming that religion refers to a guide to living your life, and perhaps a guide about the afterlife), that I reject formal religion, but also rejuct informal religion? I may or may not have spiritual ideas, or practices, and they, if they exsist, may be completely dfferent than anything else anyone beleives. In fact I may have beleifs and do nothing about them, becuase (like agnostics) I don't know if it even matters).

Everyone beleives in something, saying that they think that organized religion is wrong doean't include them in any religion, they're indiduals.

Answer 4

Ethics can be derived from many sources other than religion. Calling something wrong does not establish a moral law, it simply asserts an ethical position.

Answer 5

It's a big step between 'moral law' and religion. One can possess high levels of moral reasoning and moral behavior, but be an atheist. I think you should study further what religion is and what function religion has in society.

Answer 6

Think of it this way: Would you call Friedrich Nietzche -- or Karl Marx -- or Mark Twain -- all "deeply religious" people simply because they were vehemently anti-Christian and constantly called religion "wrong?"

Answer 7

Here is the definition..

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/religion

Answer 8

If you are trying to make a logical loop, you just failed to argue the point people are making.

Answer 9

Wrong means false.

Saying that a god exists is false.

Because there's no evidence.

Answer 10

Interesting point. I'll have to think about that one.