JW's: Lord of Lords part 2?

Question

I just asked a question about who is the Lord of Lords. The consensus by JW's is that the title refers to Jesus. So could you explain to me this verse that says Jehovah is the Lord of Lords. If you believe Jesus is the Lord of Lords and this verse says it is Jehovah doesn't that make Jesus Jehovah?

Deuteronomy 10:17 For Jehovah your God, He is the God of gods, and the Lord of lords; the great, the mighty, the fearful God who does not lift up faces, nor take a bribe.

Link to my previous question.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsEbkWcW47wiJxWhh8ukkSXsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071124173321AAjTE6g

P. June - So there can be more than one Lord of Lords?

Shane - I will never give up until my Father calls me home.

JC - Which is why God did not put Jesus in a higher position. Jesus has always been God. He has always been the Lord of Lords. Jesus is Jehovah.

Answer 1

I'm with you brother. The Holy Spirit leads and guides us into all truth - John16: 12-
If jw's don't believe in The Holy Spirit - i wonder who is guiding them -- man probably!!

Answer 2

Jehovah was the King of king and Lord of lords prior to Jesus Christ being exalted to a superior position. When Jesus was given authority over the angels ect. thats when he became the Lord of lords and King of kings.

So if Jesus always had this title, then God putting him at a higher position would be pointless.


Update:

"JC - Which is why God did not put Jesus in a higher position. Jesus has always been God. He has always been the Lord of Lords. Jesus is Jehovah."


You're wrong, because it states in the Bible.

I'll quote the New International Version Bible

Matthew 23:12
For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Philippians 2:7-11
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

Humility was a great quality Jesus displayed, and for that reason, he was exalted by his Father.

Answer 3

Do not give up. I have been thinking of putting together a package of the false teachings of the Watchtower Society and go to give it to people door to door.

We need to fight against these false doctrines and tell people what JWs really believe.

Jesus = Jehovah = Son of God = Lord and Savior = our best Friend = Holy Spirit = Lord of Lords etc = One True God

Answer 4

Jesus was not exalted to a superior position? In addition to the scriptures already submitted, have a look at Acts 2:33. It says: "Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear."

If a certain title or descriptive phrase is found in more than one location in the Scriptures, it should never hastily be concluded that it must always refer to the same person. Such reasoning would lead to the conclusion that Nebuchadnezzar was Jesus Christ, because both were called “king of kings” (Dan. 2:37; Rev. 17:14); and that Jesus’ disciples were actually Jesus Christ, because both were called “the light of the world.” (Matt. 5:14; John 8:12) We should always consider the context and any other instances in the Bible where the same expression occurs.

Answer 5

John 17:1-26; Jesus has given them the name of his Father. John 3:16;

Matt.3:16;
Matt.6:9-13;
Matt.16:16;
Matt.22:37-40;
Matt.22:42-44; The LORD Jehovah is the LORD of our Lord Jesus and in
Matt.28:18; The LORD of Lord Jesus gives Lord Jesus all power in heaven and on earth.
Jesus said to pray to his LORD God and Father who he ascended to John 20:17 [ Jesus said." I ascent to my God and Father and your God and Father ]; John 14:13,14,28 [ the LORD God and Father of Jesus is greater than Jesus, His God and Father will send the comforter by him John 15:26; ]; Pray in the name of Jesus John 16:23,26;

John 17:3,5,24; Col.1:15-17; Rev.3:14; The one we know as Christ Jesus was the first being creation, created by God in God's image, he has made Jesus heir of all things Heb.1:2; Abraham was strong in faith giving glory to God, the God that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead Rom.4:20,24;

Jesus was raised up to the right hand of God until his enemies Psm.110:1; Satan and 1/3 angels are cast down Rev.12:7-12; [ Daniel at year 3460, Dan.12:1-10; gives 2520 years past Babylon [ 606 B. C. ended Judah kings ], to the time of the end Dan.12:1-13 [ all time given ]; that Michael has Satan the god of this world 2Cor.4:3,4; and 1/3 angels cast down, [ Michael is protecting the Word in the world, what age? ], from Satan that has 7 heads to 2520 years, it ends [ then the ten horns is the time of the end Rev.17:10-14];

Enemies down under there feet in the time of the end as their short time during the ten horns time [ is this the major antichrist time period and how long a period of time is it, which religion steps forth to say the bible gives the short time for Satan or what his 7 heads mean? ];

WHAT IS JESUS IN HEAVEN DOING IN SATAN'S SHORT TIME IN END TIME?

WHAT IS SATAN DOING IN HIS SHORT TIME IN THE TIME OF THE END?

Jesus Rom.14:9-12; The Lord of the dead and the living? John 5:26-29;
Matt.22:32; God is not the God of the dead, but the living. Who makes all alive 1Cor.15:21-28,51-53; The heavenly Rev.3:12; and the earthly Isa.26:19; are made alive Rev.20:1-6; no Satan 1000 years.
The heavenly are with Jesus at his 2nd coming Rev.20:12,13; to resurrect the earthly even Israelites Eze.37:12-14; Isa 65:17; 2Pet.3:13; All has got to be made as new as before Eden.

Answer 6

this is what happens when u dont study the bible u should get a bilble study going on with a jw in your area you will get a better understanding of who is who an what is what because getting different answers wont help and you need too know what jehovahs answers are not men

Answer 7

Forgetting something? Why not read the entire passage of scripture before pointing a finger.. It mentions the " but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will" Do you know what the will of the Father is.. eh Brad? Plus.. " not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name" Jehovah's Witnesses have not Prophecied in Jesus name, neither have they expelled demons or performed powerful works in his name.. Perhaps your question is better suited for the Preachers, Pastors and people in general who feel that all they have to do is accept Jesus and they will be in Heaven.

Answer 8

Nope. Doesn't mean that at all.

Lord is a title that can be accurately applied to more than one 'person'.

Jehovah can be accurately referred to by that designation. As can his Son, to whom God gave that position.



response:

Yes. In Deut. there was but one. Later that designation was bestowed upon God's spokesman, son and future King, Jesus Christ.

Answer 9

Jesus is the Lord of Lords and He is God Jehovah.

Answer 10

Give up on it already.