During the reign of Pontius Pilot, Rome kept tight records of everyone who was crucified. There was never any records of a man named Jesus being crucified. Also, Joseph and Mary took Jesus to be regisered as a baby. There is no record of that. Where is the physical proof besides second hand commentary? Pleased, no pre-packaged answers like the Bible is our proof or faith is our evidence.
2007-11-24 03:55:55 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I'm just curious, how do you know there were no records of them?
2007-11-24 04:05:38 · answer #1 · answered by Sam 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Right, and the records are in the Library of Congress. Seriously, there is not one single historian who purports to have seen a list of names of people crucified. Nor does anyone claim to have records of births from thousands of years ago. What records existed for the Jews were destroyed in 70AD, when the temple was destroyed.
Did you know that there is VASTLY more proof of the life of Jesus than Alexander the Great? This subject has been beaten to death at R&S. This is all like ancient history 101.
Edit: I notice another person here says such a list exists. You guys really need to produce it. It would be worth a great deal of money, since no one else has ever had one.
2007-11-24 12:13:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Very few - no matter what side of the Deity Debate they fall on - argue that Jesus was not an historical figure. There are several extra-biblical references to Him and most of the objections, such as those you listed, have been answered adequately enough that even the most skeptical scholar accepts His existence.
If you're seriously interested in the topic - here's a pro and con reference to begin the research:
PRO: http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/jesusexisthub.html
CON: http://www.atheists.org/christianity/didjesusexist.html
and, for a little balance - a link to the Religious Tolerance "All Sides of the Issue" article: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcno.htm
2007-11-24 12:16:05 · answer #3 · answered by Marji 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's true that strict, tight records were kept on everyone who was crucified. In my eyes, someone as defiant as Jesus (if he existed) would have been too much trouble for them. I'm sure they almost feared crucifying a man with such a hold on so many people, even then. So maybe, if and when he was crucified, the papers just accidentally disappeared so the people who supported him could be called crazy and be hanged or crucified as well.
2007-11-24 12:00:49 · answer #4 · answered by Rich K 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I read many accounts of Jesus in history books , that were not connected to any church . I am a non-believer , but I do believe that a guy who can be described as Jesus , was executed by the Romans while Pilot was governor .
That , in no way makes him a god of any kind . He shot-off his mouth about having powers greater than the Emperor , which called for the death penalty,. - - - he got it .
2007-11-24 12:10:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's debatable.
If you read up on the many "crucified saviors-born of a virgin, etc" legends before his live as stated in the bible, it's truly irrational to believe the Bible version is factual. It's totally plagiarized from existing myths/tales.
2007-11-24 12:04:01 · answer #6 · answered by American Spirit 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There's no actual proof that this guy existed as the all we have are stories. There's no record of a man named Jesus being born, or crucified for that matter.
There's more evidence for Appolonius of Tyana who was also a prophet, son of gawd, raised the dead, turned water into wine, etc as we can find evidence of his existence. In many cases scholars feel that this was the character that they based Jeebus on.
2007-11-24 12:07:26 · answer #7 · answered by JavaJoe 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
so you have read through all of the roman documents and baby resisters of the time?
wow, impressive. That I'm sure took a lot of time.
I know God is real and Jesus lived. I don't need a piece of paper to tell me so.
2007-11-24 12:11:08 · answer #8 · answered by Anna 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There are other people who wrote about Jesus. Josephus was one of them. Now what exactly Josephus wrote about Jesus is under dispute, but the fact that he wrote about Him is not.
2007-11-24 12:06:48 · answer #9 · answered by biggestjesusfan, † Cat P.W. † 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Ask God.
J/k. I read somewhere that Jesus was an actual man, I don't think it was a reliable source though. So it was unlikely he existed.
2007-11-24 12:08:30 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋