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Media reports of the day listed the Communist PLA woes of the early 1990's due to Communism's historically proven failed economics and a nearly bankrupt central government. Boots for every other soldier, guns for half their men with only 5 BULLETS PER GUN, no real navy and precious little effective air forces. Command was antiquated as were communications, nuclear capacity and field armor with moral tanked due to nonpayment of salaries throughout the conscripted service of the PLA. The student uprising of 1989 by unarmed citizens seeking liberty nearly defeated the PLA but was brutally repelled with an excess of 10000 murdered students in the streets of China's capital. Point is the people nearly won. 1994 saw the realization of the dream of capitalizing from tyranny while undermining freedom and avoiding living wages by a small group of Arkansas traitors when Clinton, acting as a WMT lawyer while President of USA, extended "favored nation" trading status to the enemy of liberty.

2007-11-23 23:16:16 · 3 answers · asked by DAVID MICHAEL 1 in Politics & Government Military

Yet China can have NO OTHER future than that of peace and democracy if one listens to the "wisdom" of the day. That Wal-Mart's daily profiteering from and investing in Communism for two decades, with both Clinton's help, to avoid living wages at home and undermine American labor, enriching and saving a failed regime that murdered tens of millions of it's own people to maximize company profit is GOOD for the Chinese people!? This argument is as stupid and insulting today as it ever was and sadly even educated and well-meaning people puke the Hillary line despite all our expense. Wake up please, WAKE UP! Hillary and Bill Clinton, Robson and Jim Walton and David Glass and Lee Scott are traiters and should meet justice and WAL-MART IS AN OPERATING NATIONAL SECURITY RISK THAT MUST BE DISMANTLED! The future of the free world is at stake. You cant free a slave by enriching the owner so please stop asserting that stupidity!

2007-11-23 23:16:49 · update #1

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The hope of course is that their financial success will ultimately cause enough political pressure from the inside to topple the government of China.

Unfortunately, as evidenced by a recent article in Time Magazine, the people that are experiencing financial success in China are ignoring politics completely and working on improving their personal lives through consumerism, much like we do here in America. This behavior is good for the governments that control them and the central banks that profit from them. It's easy to control and profit from people that don't pay attention. And, people are less likely to pay attention if they have food in their belly and a roof over their head.

The Chinese government has proven time and time again that the lives of their citzens are spendable assets. There is no doctrine that holds life in high esteem like we have in the west. Remember the film "The Deer Hunter" where the favorite bar game was Russian Roulette?

The people are controlled, in part, by a total news blackout from any source other than the central government. All the people of China know about the world, they learn from their government. Even the Internet won't help the people get international news. CNN.com, MSNBC.com, FOX.com, ect. are all blacked out over there. I copy and paste news into emails for a friend at the University of Beijing. He, in turn, shares it with his fellow students. That's one way we can help the situation!

That same friend, when I first met him, was shocked that I didn't know that China was the center of the universe. It troubled me to learn that his government had obviously "trained" him and the rest of the people of China to believe that. While it's very patriotic to think of one's country as great, it's potentially dangerous to the rest of the world when they are so completely indoctrinated, with no alternative views available for comparison. Should the Chinese government decide to go to war, I doubt there would be much resistance from inside their country.

Companies like WalMart need a large labor force that is willing to work at substandard levels. WalMart and their ilk are happy to pay just enough money to keep the workers alive so they are able to be productive. The Chinese government is thrilled to supply that labor force and the people are willing to work 14 hour days for a bowl of rice since it's better than what they had before. With over 3 times the population of the US, there are more than enough individuals to meet this need while still others can enjoy some measure of financial success. Obviously, financial success comes at a wide variety of levels, and the Chinese government is the mega winner.

As the money of the western world moves to China, they are able to spruce up their military and extend their influence globally through asset acquisition. They very effectively keep the value of the Yuan low (about 13 cents to a dollar today) by buying it down with the huge influx of profits from doing business with WalMart, Target, etc...

China's government will never join us in sanctions against countrys in the Middle East because they understand that they are in competition with the west for oil reserves, and other natural resources too for that matter. While we, unfortunately, appear to be taking the "bad guy" role in the Middle East thanks to our NeoCon buddies in Washington, they are trying to take the "good guy" role. You catch more flys with honey than vinegar. Someone forgot to explain that simple fact to Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest.

Right now, there are not enough natural resources to fill the needs of the world, evidenced by the rising cost of copper, steel, oil, etc... Over time, this gap will widen to the breaking point. Remember what Japan did in December 1941 when they couldn't get enough steel?

A country's ability to defend itself or make war directly correlates with it's industrial might, it's technology and it's ability to supply soldiers. While America's industrial might dwindles, China's becomes more powerful. We have shared most of our technology with them and they are graduating a large percentage of engineers from their universities. The Chinese government can mount an army, drawing on a population that surpassed a billion several years ago, that would be larger than any other country on the planet. And now, well equipped...

Looking back in history, to the days when Western Civilization was defining itself for the first time, (battle of Marathon et al) we learned that free people fight better for what they have than conscripted soldiers. We may, one day, have to rely on that fact.

Meanwhile, if the west could get together and impose import duties, paid in hard currency, for products entering our countries from China, we could control their growth. That of course opens up an entirely new conversation (see Milton Freedman's work) that I'm not digressing to here. No presidential candidate running for president in 2008, including Ron Paul is interested in this approach. Walmart is not closing down, nor is any other company that has become exceedingly wealthy on the backs of the Chinese workers.

The world is NOT a safer place with a powerful, tyrannical government in China and they're getting stronger every day. The best thing we can do is educate the people of China on global politics. It's a hard task since their media is completely closed. We, as individuals, can still use email to get news in. Students in China are the key, as they were in the 1980s. Find a Chinese student, and send him an email!

2007-11-24 01:36:27 · answer #1 · answered by Pragmatism Please 7 · 1 1

We should all be put to death. Well, isn't that what you're saying?

More fear mongering about China when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Did you know, China reduced its active military force by 1 million people a year ago?

Did you know that their military was pretty much a relic of the 60's and 70's and they can now afford to MODERNIZE IT.

We don't bitttch about other countries modernizing theirs, but we sure scream about China. Yet the last war they were in was in the late 70's and that lasted a month.

What you know about China would fit in a thimble, what you think you know would fit in a barrel.

China is little of what you think she is and much of what you want her to be.

I know, I'm an ex pat from the USA living in the heart of China.

Peace

Jim

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2007-11-23 23:47:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Another Anti-China Rant with little or no connection to military!!

2007-11-23 23:59:58 · answer #3 · answered by conranger1 7 · 3 0

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