I asked a question earlier regarding the use of "us" or "our" in the book of Genesis. I got a lot of responses that God is referring to the Trinity when he says this.
My question is, why does he sometimes refer to himself as "I" and sometimes as "us"? He will refer to himself as "I" when speaking to someone, but when speaking about humans he usually refers to "us" or "our".
How can you say he is referring to the Trinity if he is not consistent with the use?
Does anyone else have an alternate explanation?
2007-11-23 10:02:52 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Fish, yes I know he can because he does. But why?
2007-11-23 10:08:51 · update #1
Why I can’t believe in the royal we, idea to Genesis 1:26 and 3:22,
If Jehovah talked with the royal we or us, etc, why did He only do it only 4-5 times.
Why didn’t He or doesn’t He continue to do to so through out the bible.
Why didn’t He use the royal we at Gen. 1:29, 30 only 3 verses later, or Gen. 2:18, Gen. 3:11, 15
and through out the rest of the bible? Why at Isa. 6:8, does Jehovah say “Whom shall I send”?
Job 38:4-7 shows that the angels were existing at the creation of man, so Jehovah wasn’t alone and had many spirit creatures to talk to.
Instead, which sounds more real and truthful, that Jehovah was talking to someone who is His Master Worker, His Firstborn Son, His Faithful Witness, who is His image, His exact representation, OR He was talking to Himself. (Prov. 8:30; Heb. 1:3; Col 1:15)
Bible scholar Donald E. Gowan said “There is no support in the O[ld] T[estament] for most of the proposed explanations: the royal ‘we,’ the deliberative ‘we,’ the plural of fullness, or an indication of a plurality of persons in the Godhead.
Why does the word Elohim according to Strong’s Cyclopaedia, when it applies to Jehovah means Supreme God, not Gods? Even when this word is applied to Moses (Ex. 4:16 & 7:1) it doesn’t mean that there are 3 Moses, it doesn’t even mean there are 2 Moses.
(Side point when Jesus said if you see me you see the Father, it is because he is the image of God, the exact representation of his Father. When you see an image in a mirror you are seeing a representation, not the actual person. Col 1:15)
(Side point, According to my college dictionary, begotten means “to be born”, to be born means “brought into life or being” when was Jesus brought into life, when he came to life as a baby? No, as Jehovah’s Firstborn of creation Col. 1:15; Rev 3:14)
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2007-11-25 02:14:09 · answer #1 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As Charles W said, He was speaking to the angles. They were created before God created flesh man. In fact, you may have been one of them ... but that’s another subject for another day.
2007-11-23 18:11:04 · answer #2 · answered by David G 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There is no trinity. The Bible says the water,the blood,and the spirit agree.These three are one. He says us,our,etc. in many places but there is still one God. When we decide to do something,what do we say? "Let's go!". Well, there's only one of us. Personally, I think its the same w/ God. There is a verse that tells that. But I'm drawing a blank right now. But it says what I just said.
2007-11-23 18:14:35 · answer #3 · answered by paula r 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
God is one and God is three.
All at the same time.
Sometime I refer to myself as, I or me or Art or Pastor.
However I'm just one person with different names.
God is one God yet three Persons.
Which doesn't make sense to the human mind, but that's the way it is.
Pastor Art
2007-11-23 18:38:08 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
No no no.
Not trinity.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
The word "God" [Gen.1:26] is (Elohim) in the Hebrew and means God and the angels.
2007-11-23 18:06:12 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
God speaks of himself (the Father) and when He talks about "Us" He is referring to Himself (Father) Jesus (Son) and Holy Spirit.
2007-11-23 18:08:18 · answer #6 · answered by Seeno†es™ 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Hon,
What makes you think God is alone? He isn`t, he is surrounded by adoring angels and others..
He has never been alone..
Peace & God bless from Texas <><
2007-11-23 18:09:49 · answer #7 · answered by jaantoo1 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
He can speak of I and us. It depends on what He is talking about. The three of the trinity can act as individuals.
2007-11-23 18:07:11 · answer #8 · answered by Fish <>< 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Why would you the terms "us" or "our"? I use them in reference to another person. So, why would God not do the same? It would seem logical that he was talking to another person, not himself!
2007-11-23 18:08:26 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
here is an alternate explanation:
http://www.taroscopes.com/webstream/originsofevil_startpage.html
2007-11-23 20:12:53 · answer #10 · answered by HBVmmvii 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋