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I read a question on here that said "Can a person who is not “born again” be saved?"

do you get born again and then saved or what? The only way I can understand the difference, if there is a difference, is that you must be born again by the Spirit (sancitified i.e. set apart) upon acceptance of Christ, and that process of sanctification, being made holy, continues until the point where Jesus returns to judge and the person is "saved"

The bible talks about being saved now and those who are being saved (which refers to sanctification and Christian growth as we await Christ's return) later i think. i don't know what to do, i haven't a clue?!

2007-11-22 16:03:09 · 14 answers · asked by Gruntled Employee 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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It's the same thing. What i want to know is if once you are "born again" are you always saved.....?

2007-11-22 16:12:50 · answer #1 · answered by Princess Ninja 7 · 0 0

Being born again is an event. Being clothed in righteousness is a condition. Being saved is a process.

All persons who are born again, unless they resist God's grace, will be saved. We (born-again persons) are clothed in the righteousness of Christ, which will allow us to enter God's presence upon death. We are being saved as God works His healing and forgiveness in our lives through His Word and Sacrament; complete salvation is our ultimate hope, and the promise He has given us.

Many Protestants prefer to use the word "sanctification" to describe the salvation process, so they can use "saved" and "born again" synonymously to emphasize our rejection of the doctrine of Purgatory.

2007-11-23 01:01:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous Lutheran 6 · 0 0

you have to be saved first and then be born again. they are not the same thing. being saved is saying a little sentence and accepting christ into your life. being born again is actually having God as the holy spirit come inside of you and live within you. many saved christians go their whole life without being born again. but like it says in John, you must be born again to get into heaven.

2007-11-23 00:28:57 · answer #3 · answered by Keila 4 · 0 0

I believe there is no difference really. You can't be saved unless you are born again. Because the fleshly man cannot enter heaven only the spiritual man can. "You must be born again".
Yet the meaning of 'saved' can mean various things.

The meaning of 'saved' has been simplified greatly by evangelicals over the past hundred or more years. It generally is meant to refer to you getting to enter the pearly gates into heaven as a 'ticket to heaven' after you die. This may work well for fast moving evangelical crusades but then the fullness of the meaning of 'saved' is then lost. The greek word sozo , means more than just a resting place in heaven after death. It was translated into english as 'saved' but it doesnt mean salvation. It means salvation, healing and deliverance, the complete package. It means rescued, pulled from danger. This then involves the body, soul and spirit , in other words, the whole man, not just an event which occurs sometime in the future after you die.

Concerning salvation, there are effectively three - of the spirit, of the soul, and of the body.
Salvation of the body:
is in the future when christians receive glorified bodies.

Salvation of the soul: Is effectively restoration of the fallen state of our souls. The depraved and wicked mind, thoughts, past memories , all are part of the realm of the soul. These don't suddenly change after regeneration. There is the topic of renewal of the mind, which is effectively 'salvation of the soul', and this is the ongoing process of our old fallen minds being transformed into Christ's image, to receive the new mind of Christ, and to live according to the truth. Our old former way of thinking was according to this world, whereas we must put off the old way of thinking and think according to the truth of the bible.


Concerning sanctification and holiness, I believe the bible speaks of it as not an ongoing process but a 'now' thing. Once you are saved, you are justified and sanctified, period. In God's eyes, you are justified, sanctified and holy because of Christ alone. The work is complete, and you enter into God's rest. The Holy Spirit will not dwell in anything which is not sanctified and holy. There is no concept of being justified by Christ's work only, and then striving to be sanctified or holy for the rest of your life until death. I believe that is more a roman catholic type concept which I suppose would end in purgatory for those who have not sanctified themselves or made themselves holy enough!

Salvation of the spirit is the same thing as being 'born again', based upon Christ's discussion with Nicodemus. So concerning 'salvation', referring to the whole man, 'born again' is part of it. "Being saved" I believe refers to the salvation of the soul, when a person is being saved from their past wicked thoughts, lifestyle and behaviour. "Being saved" cannot refer to the future salvation from the lake of fire, because that is not dependant upon our works at all, but faith in Christ.

2007-11-25 20:54:00 · answer #4 · answered by Sporadic 4 · 0 0

when the diciples were "saved' they operated in faith and love, yet still walk and talk as men, who rage and wanted to bring FIRE to destroy, like Elijah did to prove GOD
and other thing was peter rejected JESUS in situation of saving himelf.
when day of pentecost came, they wre 'born again'
filled with the holy spirit
of power
of love
and sound mind peter 1:7
so to me, i think it is th elike of this.
grafted into the body of Christ
till the paptism of the Holy Spirit
THEN they/we are ONE in SPIRIT of POWER
OF LOVE AND SOUND TRUTH.(maturity still
required though).
they were baptized by WATER//cleansed
and day of pentecost they were baptized
in holy spirit..the 3rd member of the trunity of God.
GOD is LOVE
JESUS the WORD
Holy Spirit is comforter/teacher as well
POWER..that raise romans 8:11
raise JESUS from the dead.
the WORD was spoken..in faith and love
and righteousness..I will be raised on the rd day
we are a 3 part being.
so think saved is soul and spirit
but the anointing of GOD os the holy spirit POWER.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SALVATION AND SAVED TOO.
SALVATION HAS 5 MEANING healing, deliverance soundness
preservation i think the last one is ? ONENESS..i forgot.
and traditional denomination are NOT teaching the full gospel truth neither.
GOD is the same then, today and tomorrow.
SO healing is still here..as well the rest.
power to cast out demons

2007-11-23 00:18:12 · answer #5 · answered by blessedrobert 5 · 0 0

God knows all whom He has called out for salvation. When Christ died on the cross, the sacrifice was made perfect and acceptable in the eyes of the Father, the work of salvation was done for those who are His. So, in essence, all whom have been called, all who are written in the lamb's book of life, we technically saved at that point. God, who is fully in charge of our salvation, determines when He will indwell each believer with the Spirit, it is at that point we are born anew, when we are indwelt with the Spirit. So, all the elect were "saved" when Christ died on the cross, they were born anew when the Spirit indwelt us.

2007-11-23 00:24:09 · answer #6 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 0 0

zotta1 is accurate in his answer. "born again" is an *event*. "being saved" is a *condition*. You cannot "be saved" unless you are first "born again". On the other hand, it is possible to *have been* born again but no longer "saved". (Some sects claim that salvation cannot be lost - but this means that someone who once appeared to "be saved" was never actually "born again").

Those who answered differently, shame on you! This is a basic tenet of Christianity!
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203%20;&version=49;

Jim, http://www.jimpettis. com/wheel/

2007-11-23 00:25:32 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Saved is born of his Spirit.The same as born again.Christian growth is progressive sanctification.

2007-11-23 00:11:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

They are the same! When a person believes in Jesus as their savior, the Holy Spirit indwells the person and this is known as being born again. God Bless!

2007-11-23 00:08:45 · answer #9 · answered by mandbturner3699 5 · 4 2

Being "born again" is the SAME as being saved according to the Bible( King James Version ).

2007-11-23 00:08:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

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