The church is wrong...?

Question

I won't to know what you think of this,I am very curious what other think about it.Durning the christian inqusition a lot of people where torturted and killed for not believing what they did or for being a witch all in the name of god.Then durning the witch hunts many where burned for being witches and I think the witch hunts where directed by the church(I would have to double check to be sure)But now many people say witches are fake and not real,whats up with that?So your telling me millions where killed by the church for being witches and now you say there not real.Theres something weird about that,something is being hidden here and either way its a lose lose situtation for the church.

Correction tens of thousands,sorry about that,thinking about something else.

I for one use a little witchcraft and with some of the best relusts you can get but that is not the point I'm trying to make.The church made these mistakes whos to say they are right in the first place or anything they say is right.Some of need to learn to read inbetween the lines.

Answer 1

Nothing weird...people use the church and religion for all kinds of diabolical crimes they could not get away with otherwise...

Answer 2

Witch hunts were directed by the church. King James changed the bible to state, thou shall not suffer a witch to live. This was to make it acceptable for the witch trial to happen. People were told that God wanted witches to die. Then The Malleus Maleficarum was written to tell ways to know if someone was a witch etc.

Are Witches Real? Of course we are and we are everywhere. I am proud to say I am a witch. My religion is earth based and focuses on a God and a Goddess. There are many many different forms of witchcraft. There are solitary witches and those who belong to covens. Most will say they practice the old religion (a religion before Christianity) Not all witches believe exactly the same things. Wicca is the most common form today.

So yes the burning times happened, witches were and still are real, and the Church is very powerful.

Answer 3

If you're talking about the Salem witch trials, those were primarily a strange psychological phenomenon created in part by rampant unfounded suspicions, fears, and manipulativeness by the people of the towns, as well as possibly ergot poisoning. They were sanctioned on a local and county level in Massachusetts, but they were never sanctioned by a religion as a whole. Also, the 19 people sentenced to death were hanged, not burned. In all, 14 women and five men were executed.

In 1692, those people were accused of being witches. In 2007, we are (I hope) better educated and know better than to believe that all of the people executed were witches. It is not a contradiction; it is a belief being changed in the face of evidence.

The Spanish Inquisition was not under the Church's control; it was under the control of the Spanish monarch--though Catholic clergy did officiate at the Crown's command. It lasted for about 350 years and didn't officially end until the early 19th century.

The total number of deaths due to burning lies anywhere between 800 (according to Vatican records) and 3000-5000 (according to estimates of historians). The general estimate is that 2% of people tried during the Spanish Inquisition were burned at the stake.

Answer 4

First of all, the Inquisition was wrong. The Catholic church has already issued an apology for that -- there's not much else they can do about it now, except to work for justice, which they do (I'm not Catholic, btw)

Second, there were not tens of millions killed in the Inquisitions. There is much evidence that shows this number is hugely inflated -- just a statistic that people bandy about without researching.

Yes. Now we ALL know that most of the people persecuted and killed weren't witches. We can't judge those people for what they did based on what they knew at the time. We can only do better now because we now know better.

Answer 5

Many times bad people use religion to hide behind and commit terrible acts. it is people who commit these acts and blame it on religions...tho there are religions which would condemn the fact that I am Pagan and it did not just happen during the Burning Times, look at what was done to our Native american brothers and sisters just a few years ago. Perhaps some may have been witches..certainly many were Pagan, but some were also mentally ill, epiliptic, ect....but really tho I ramble...my point is that no one should be persecuted for faith , lack of, or anywhere in between...bb

Answer 6

Isaiah a million:thirteen - God starts to disclose His displeasure with the Sabbath. Matt. 28:a million; Mark sixteen:two,nine; John 20:a million,19- the Gospel writers purposely display Jesus' resurrection and appearances had been on Sunday. This is when you consider that Sunday had now emerge as the foremost day within the lifetime of the Church. Acts 20:7 - this newsletter indicates the apostolic culture of collecting in combination to have a good time the Eucharist on Sunday, the "first day of the week." Luke records the precept worship used to be on Sunday when you consider that this used to be one of the crucial departures from the Jewish kind of worship. a million Cor. sixteen:two - Paul instructs the Corinthians to contribute to the church buildings "at the first day of the week," that is Sunday. This is when you consider that the foremost day of Christian worship is Sunday. Col. two:sixteen-17 - Paul teaches that the Sabbath used to be just a shadow of what used to be fulfilled in Christ, and says "permit nobody move judgment any longer over a Sabbath." two Thess. two:15 - we're to preserve quick to apostolic culture, if it is oral or written. The two,000 12 months-historic culture of the Church is that the apostles modified the Sabbath day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. Heb. four:eight-nine - involving the day of relaxation, if Joshua had given relaxation, God might no longer later talk of "yet another day," that is Sunday, the brand new Sabbath. Sunday is the primary day of the week and the primary day of the brand new production brought on via our Lord's resurrection, which used to be on Sunday. Heb. 7:12 - whilst there's a difference within the priesthood, there's a difference within the regulation as good. Because we now have a brand new Priest and a brand new sacrifice, we actually have a new day of worship, that is Sunday. Rev a million:10 - John especially elements out that he witnesses the heavenly Eucharistic liturgy on Sunday, the Lord's day, the brand new day of relaxation in Christ. Matt. sixteen:19; 18:18 - anything the Church binds on the earth is sure in heaven. Since the resurrection, Mass has been in particular celebrated on Sunday. See? You had been improper approximately Catholicism's Sunday worship. . . suppose what else you would be improper approximately. After all, non-Catholics have no idea Catholicism as good as Catholics do.

Answer 7

Most "witches" killed during the witch hunts were not witches at all. They were people who ticked other people off and accusations were made. If you crossed the wrong person back then they would find anything they could to prove you were a witch. They would even set you up.

That being said, witches are alive and very real. They just are misunderstood. I personally prefer to refer to myself as a Pagan or a Wiccan. I'm just not comfortable saying "i'm a witch". Others give me that title...I don't give it to myself.

Answer 8

http://www.catholiceducation.org/links/search.cgi?query=inquisition

covers the inquisition.

the witch hunt thing i am unsure of, however the church was not wrong in any event, certain members where in error but that does not reflect upon the truths and doctrines of the catholic church that is without blemish. the members are sinfull and at different eras of history some have gone very astray and are guilty of heinous crimes, this is true of all the various groups of the past and even today, example the barbarians,the reformation on both sides,the english to just about every nation, teh vietnam war on both sides etc.........the list is endless but throughout the catholic doctrinal teaching was unchanged and christs church his bride remained faithfull and just like jesus is the catholic church is the same yesterday today and forever.
read the early christian writings to see how catholic the first christians were.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
look under church fathers along the top.

Answer 9

The reason for that is that back then, church was very powerful and had a lot of influence on people...so they simply used this excuse to get rid of people that were getting in their way. Like, they would do these weird torturing tests to "check if the person was a witch"....like they would throw the person off a cliff, and if she is innocent, she will fall and die, and if she is a witch, she will fly away or save herself somehow!

Answer 10

Witches are real and really evil. Deut 18:9 “When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, be very careful not to imitate the detestable customs of the nations living there. 10 For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling, or use sorcery, or interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, 11 or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD. It is because the other nations have done these detestable things that the LORD your God will drive them out ahead of you. 13 But you must be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 The nations you are about to displace consult sorcerers and fortune-tellers, but the LORD your God forbids you to do such things.”

Answer 11

many of the witchcraft trials were initiated by jealous neighbors, jilted lovers, and town leaders wanting to grab land. few if any of them were about real pagans, who had enough sense not to reveal their beliefs.

killing by the church started in the 3rd century. there was no mass conversion of the roman empire, there was massive genocide and forced conversions at the hands of the state and its church. when they no longer had pagans to eradicate, they turned to the middle east with the crusades, and when those lost favor, they started the inquisitions. the reformation wars carried them into the age of enlightenment, at which time the church no longer ruled with absolute power and so couldn't get away with its extermination campaigns. the church never was right, it was merely powerful.