a vision seen by john in revelations was a woman giving birth and she was in agony, i thought birth pain was?

Question

brought upon humans from the original sin from eve? how can a vision have birth pains?

REVELATIONS 12:1
And a great sign was seen in heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of twelve stars, 2 and she was pregnant. And she cries out in her pains and in her agony to give birth

great answers guys, thanks!

Answer 1

This woman is Gods Heavenly Organization giving birth to a Kingdom which will be ruled by Christ Jesus and 144,000 of anointed brothers.
She understands and knows the challenges this Kingdom will endure as well as the benefits it will bring to mankind and to the heavens above.

Answer 2

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

12 stars=12 tribes of Israel
woman=mother Israel, or Mary
sun is symbolic of Christ
moon of satan

This "wonder" is a great sign in the heavens. The "woman" here is not the church, for a church building has never delivered any child. This "mother" has nothing to do with the church. This woman is "Israel", the twelve sons of Jacob, or tribes [John 16:21].

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

This "child" to be delivered is the Messiah, and the woman delivering the child is the symbol of "Israel", however, in the physical sense of this earth age, we call her "Mary". It is Satan's sole purpose to destroy this child. This woman is the wife and the son of Almighty God, and God wants us to feel and understand the events occurring then. What happens to them affects Him, exactly as it would you or I in a similar case.

Revelation 12:3 "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, haven seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

Answer 3

Jude 9; Michael and all the holy angels want salvation to come with the new heavens for then, and the new earth as same as all earthly believers do. The results of all they want and need is shown in Rev.12:3,4,7-12; when Satan and 1/ 3 angels are cast down to have a short time as Dan.12:1-13; Michael gives to them in the time of the end. WE ARE NOT IS THIS ALONE, heaven and earth is involved and all will be made new as before Eden. 2Pet.3:13; Rev.20:7-10; Heb.2:9,14,16; to no more Satan.

Answer 4

This leads up to the truth about the Genesis, and Moses.
The woman clothed with the sun is Eve. Eve was first, there was no Adam at this time, Adam came from the Land of Nod (2nd age) and had no children with Eve. Cain his son killed the 3rd Christ Abel, who was born of the Holy Spirit in the 3rd age.

The child was the first Christ, and the 12 stars were the 12 apostles. But the first Christ (Jesus) was killed by the dragon, the serpent. This was the age of the flesh eating dinosaurs, the children of the dragon. The 1st seal, (1st age)

But God prepared a place for Eve, the land of Nod where she was for "1290" days. The 2nd seal (2nd age)

The serpent hunted Eve and LORD God prepared a place for Eve where she was for A Time, Times and Half-a-Time, the Garden of Eden. The 3rd seal (3rd age)

The serpent cast water from his mouth after Eve, the earth swallowed up the water, Noah's flood. The 4th seal (4th age)

Revelation 13 is about Ham, Abraham and Moses. There are 42 generation from Abraham until Jesus (14+14+14)

The image was made by Moses, and the gold of Solomon temple is six hundred threescore and six (666) The 5th seal (5th age)

A Time is the 4 ages up to and including Abraham's father and lasted some 200 million years.

Times is with and "s" because there are 2 of them each 1960 years long. Abraham's Time "Tribulation".(5th age) and the Fig tree Time "Great Tribulation" (6th age)

Half-a-Time is only half of 1960, it is 980 years long.
and it began 1960 AD. 7th seal (7th and final age)

Go to my 360 yahoo website for the entire account of Revelation.

Answer 5

Well, its mean to be symbolic ... this verse isn't literally talking about a woman giving birth.

But, according to Christian theology, even if the pain of birth is a result of original sin, there's no logical reason that if someone saw a vision of a woman giving birth that the vision wouldn't include the fact that she was in pain.

Answer 6

The name of that book of the Bible (yes, books can have books, but there needs to be enough room on the shelf) is
The Book of Revelation.
Notice there is no 's' at the end of 'Revelation'.
Birth pain has been a part of human life since before Raquel Welch appeared in the movie 'One Million Years BC'
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800253080/info

Answer 7

Its one of the few true parts of the bible. Giving birth is agony - equivalent to being shot. And id the guy thinks he is sharing the experience by being there, unless he is passing a bolling ball he is experiencing didilly squat.

As for original sin, that is the biggest lie ever. Humans are born, Intelligent, loving, lovable, curious, giving, full of fun and zest, creative; and then life and religion happen to them. Thats where the pain starts.

Answer 8

The Vision doesnt have birth pains... the woman in the vision does.

Cordially,
John
http://www.GodSci.org

Answer 9

Birth of a new age.

Answer 10

The ignorance of some of you amazes me at times. Have you ever have a dream in which you or someone was in pain? John's vision was no differant. Study to show yourself approved!!!