you assert that Jesus claimed to be God when you quote him in John 14:9: "He that has seen me has seen the Father". Didn’t Jesus clearly say that people have never seen God, as it says in John 5:37: "And the father himself which Has sent me, has borne witness of me. You have NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE"?
2007-11-22 05:17:37 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Very good Ahmad. It's true. And by the way, no. Moses did not see God. Moses himself said "no man can see God and live". If you read the account he shielded his eyes as God's presence passed before him.
2007-11-22 05:22:41 · answer #1 · answered by Q&A Queen 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I know that many who call themselves "Christian" say that God the Father and Jesus are the same person (or some such terminology). But the Bible reveals that Jesus and God the Father are two individuals, who are unified in one spirit. One is greater than the other; they have different wills and knowledge; one has died, the other not; one has been seen by men, the other not; etc....
But in the same way that a father and a son are of the same kind, Jesus is God as the Father is God (John 1:1).
Jesus is the God of the Old Testament who revealed himself and talked "face to face" with Moses. He is the one who is named "I AM" (John 8:58). And one of his duties while in the flesh was to reveal the Father to us (John 17:6), as he is not clearly revealed in the Old Testament.
John 8:58 -- Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." (NKJV)
2007-11-23 04:09:15 · answer #2 · answered by BC 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form,nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent.
You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me,
yet you refuse to come to me to have life." John 5:37-40
People who don't want to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior are unable to hear God's voice, to them it is all nonsense. This was as true at Jesus' time on earth as it is today. To the people who listened to Him and didn't believe in Him he was just the "carpenter's son".
But those who believed in Him realized that He is God in human form.
"Yes, Lord," she (Martha) told him, "I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who was to come into the world." John 11:27
"Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel." John 1:49
Even demons, who are spirit beings knew who Jesus was:
"Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God." Mark 3:11
"Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are— the Holy One of God!"Luke 4:34
Note: "Son of God" is not a physical term. God did NOT have sex with Mary. "Son of God" in the Bible is a term of relationship.
2007-11-22 13:41:00 · answer #3 · answered by Friend of Jesus 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is iterpreted as actually meaning that the fullness of the Holy Spirit of God dwells withim Him. All of His words and actions are guided by the Spirit of God.
2007-11-22 14:00:22 · answer #4 · answered by TIAT 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You forgot the very next verse:
38 "nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. "
And so you don't believe, and so you don't understand.
You just proved Jesus right! But you didn't want to, did you? lol
One clue about Jesus, He IS smarter than you and your teachers.
Why didn't you also show the next verse like I did? Why?
2007-11-22 13:25:37 · answer #5 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
open forum any one can answer
in the old testament moses seen god
so i guess jesus wasnt familiar with the moses myth
EDIT yes but it also says that moses seen the backside of god
and moses seen the hand of god write the 10 commandments
it said he couldnt look directly at god but he could see him from behind
EDIT AGAIN here is the passage
Exodus 33: 23And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
there moses saw gods backside
what you think atheists dont know anythinng about religion?
2007-11-22 13:20:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Even the blind people can see Jesus face to face.
Jesus was the Word, we also see the Word. Your argument is baseless.
2007-11-22 13:20:49 · answer #7 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
differnt people he was talking to the pharasies did not know God but the desciples saw God in him.
2007-11-22 13:26:35 · answer #8 · answered by Mim 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i agree with nina
2007-11-22 13:22:39 · answer #9 · answered by Karenita 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋