How do creationists scientifically refute endogenous retroviral insertions?

Question

I admire that you want creationism to be taught as Science.

Welcome to Science's playground. Now, biblical verses won't count.

You need logical arguments to debate/discuss. To start with very simple question, can you please refute endogenous retrogene insertions, Scientifically?

Endogenous retrogene insertions are molecular remnants of a past parasitic viral infection. Occasionally, copies of a retrovirus genome are found in its host's genome, and these retroviral gene copies are called endogenous retroviral sequences. Retroviruses, like HIV, make a DNA copy of their own viral genome and insert it into their host's genome. If this happens to a germ line cell (i.e. the sperm or egg cells) the retroviral DNA will be inherited by descendants of the host.

This process is rare and fairly random, so finding retrogenes in identical chromosomal positions of two different species indicates common ancestry.

Be kind and please I said, Scientifically.

Give it your best shot!

For the starters, I assume you know basics of Biology.

Sorry mik1942, you aren't making any sense Scientifically.

Answer 1

but but WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEYS???

Answer 2

Why do you assume that you need to explain to creationists what endogenous retroviral insertions are?

Can you believe I got that out with a straight face?

Ok, almost got it out with a straight face.

*Snort*

Answer 3

I would like to add to this if I may. Retroviruses, specifically lentiviruses are being looked at as potential genetic therapeutical agents. The reason being is because they are able to insert themselves in a host's genome (provirus). This has huge implications when we're talking about faults in programmed cell death (apoptosis) at the genetic level such as a mutation in the p53 gene (like the Rb gene, is a tumor suppressor gene, i.e., its activity stops the formation of tumors, but when the gene malfunctions, then cells have the ability to keep growing without ever dying---ie..tumors/cancer).

If we can successfully alter retroviruses and add desired genes to target specific cancer cells. We could in theory kill tumor cells at the genetic level. In other words fix the mutated p53 gene in order for it to function properly and carry on with programmed cell death (apoptosis), killing the tumor.

It is ironic that this topic is being brought up now, because I just reviewed a protocol regarding lentiviral vector costructs as candidates for cancer treatment.

Scientifically, the sequence must be preprogrammed for effectiveness, hence Intelligent Design.

Get A Grip

Answer 4

Great question.. good luck getting an actual answer from your target audience. It won't happen because of course, they can't answer without shattering their fragile beliefs.

Answer 5

May I just sit back and read the fundies answers? This ought to be good. Later.....well, it's predictable, then ran and hid.

Answer 6

you're forgetting one point... religious people are completely immune to logic, science, etc!

nonetheless, i hope a few of them get on here and try this one, because the results will be entertaining.

Answer 7

I always insert the truth by reading and studying
the word of God.

Answer 8

Creation does not belong in science.

good question, be prepared for some drivel...

Answer 9

I really do not see your point. Science is the continued & infinite research into the methods of God's creativity. If God created a cell, a scientist discovering that the cell is made up of X-chromosones or Y-chromosones have nothing to do with disproving that God created the cell.
Or maybe u are saying that God is so stupid & science is so "technically" that he couldnt have possibly created anything because the chemistry & biology of it is too advance for him. Duh!!

Answer 10

I'm making popcorn for this one.

Answer 11

How about "this blaphemous activity is allowed by God's will within God's creation but it is inspired by Satan to take mankind into the depths of Hell"?