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All of the so-called proof as of now can be explained through other means. I would say the main source of evidence would be the Bible but this is outdated and it has been rewritten many times so it can't be entirely trusted. I mean, I could write a fictional book on how we came to be, and in 6000 years once the real information was lost, it could be taken as fact. So my questions are; Why is it so hard for God to show some sign of actually being the creator? Why is it left up to faith alone. If he wants what's best for everyone wouldn't it make sense to prove he was real? This way everyone would praise him and wouldn't be sent to hell. I am an Atheist, but if I knew that God was my creator then of course I would change. Would God not want me to? I want actual answers, not just "God doesn't exist."

2007-11-21 23:13:59 · 16 answers · asked by TBaT 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Although it isn't stated directly in the Bible, God seems to prefer a balance of evidence: there is enough reason to believe if we want to believe, but not enough to intellectually force belief against our will. Instead of overpowering us with undeniable logic or mighty miracles until we grudgingly give up and give in, God wants us to want to come to Him. With this balance there is authentic free will, and the choice is primarily made not by intellect, but by heart and will.

2007-11-21 23:40:29 · answer #1 · answered by thundercatt9 7 · 2 0

If God showed himself then people would praise him to use him. People would go about their everyday life knowing God is around and would not pay one bit of attention to him let alone have a relationship with him until it was time to die. Then people would fight to get in line to see him and to use hime once again. This is not the mindset the Lord had in mind when he said he wanted us to prepare for eternity. In this case everyone would be in heaven and not know the Lord or anything about him. As far as proof goes there are thousands or millions of testimonies, one in each believers heart that could have been nothing else than a God sent miracle. Some will not believe this because it has not happened to them or they just plain refuse that it could be anything else other than a coincidence or by chance. As for the ones who believe and feel the Holy Spirit in their heart there is no need to prove anything to anybody because the proof is already there for us. They try to share that experiance with others and try to get others to see what they see and all they seem to get is people that claim they are being forced into believing the same. Really, I don't care what anybody thinks or believes as long as I am able to hold onto my beliefs. Part of the work God would have us do that delights him is to try and spread and share his word. I believe he thinks this is a better way to get the word across than to show up and have himself mocked, tortured, and killed again. As far as the book goes, You could right a book your right. Could you have many different books written by many different people at many different times that all say and or lead to the same thing? (Jesus Christ) After all isn't the Old testament about the coming of Crist and the New testiment about Jesus' time on earth, the second coming of Christ? GOD BLESS!!

2007-11-22 07:47:00 · answer #2 · answered by Allan C 6 · 1 0

Which God? There is so many to chose from and it would be nice to clarify who is the real God; so please stand up and be counted and prove to the doubters of society.

Myths and Religion of the unexplained, revolved around the superstition of the primitive man and women, albeit joining hands in a family wonders of hunters and gathers. Then they turned into the farmer society groups and their extended family's into tribes.

These tribes, eventually combined to settle down in collective areas and thus villages grew into towns and then cities. The law contained in their religious beliefs enable them to govern society through worship and prayer by their governors of leadership and maintaining obedience of the masses.

These homosapiens who would follow the sun and the rains into seasons of time and thus pay homage to a successful harvest or the hunt for food and so on it goes till you find reverence in what is now called the Holly Bible of belief.

As I have strong agnostic views on life and until God can convince me beyond reasonable doubt then I will stay open minded on the hole subject of religion.

2007-11-22 07:45:40 · answer #3 · answered by Drop short and duck 7 · 0 0

In the days that Jesus walked the earth (Jesus being God with flesh on), he raised the dead, healed the sick, caused the blind to see, the lame to walk, the deaf to hear, and so many other miracles were performed that they couldn't all be recorded. Yet even then, the people didn't believe. Those who witnessed these things have testified as to what they saw, and yet you don't believe anymore than the people who didn't believe when they themselves saw them. As to God, He has revealed Himself in creation and in your own heart and yet you refuse to believe. If you will not believe the evidence of your own eyes, nor the testimony of your own heart, nor the testimony of those who witnessed this incredible history first hand, what then do you propose that God do to prove Himself? Should He reveal Himself to you in all His Glory, oh, you'd believe, but you'd be dead in your sin and spend eternity in Hell, which He is not willing for you to do. So He puts it to faith, through grace, for you to believe. You see, if anyone would find God, he must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who DILIGENTLY seek Him. If you don't believe these things, He can't do anything for you because you CHOOSE not to believe.

Yes, you could write a book and let it sit around 6,000 years and have it say anything you want. But find about 50 guys, all from different walks of life, who write what you want them to write over a period of some 2500 years and then, after 2000 years, have it be even half as cohesive as the Bible is and I'll believe anything you have to say about Scripture. The Bible is unique in that, after all this time, it is still the Bible, it has not, in fact, been re-written even once, and is still the Inspired Word of God. He is able to maintain His Word whole and complete and inerrant just as He is able to keep the universe all in one piece with nothing more than the merest thought that it should do what it does.

Believe or don't; the choice is yours. But don't go blaming God for your lack of belief, and don't blame the Bible for your lack of understanding.

2007-11-22 07:41:35 · answer #4 · answered by Steve 5 · 1 0

God's word says that all the created things that we see around us prove the existence of God:

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.

2007-11-22 08:16:27 · answer #5 · answered by seekfind 6 · 0 0

You seem to be interested in finding religion. well, i myself am a christian and i can share a few accounts which helped me believe that God is real.

firstly, i have had asthma from when i was young - it was so bad such that i had to give my dog away, i couldnt eat anything cold or i would get a bad cough. a few years later God healed me. now i am able.

well for me i can jus feel that God is real. whenever i am down i can feel that somehting in me helps me up and move on.

so i just believed; well i oso figure, i could just believe in God since what the bible teaches can be put into practice ad helps me out anytime.

u can email me if u wanna noe more.

2007-11-22 07:34:57 · answer #6 · answered by Nathan-Man 1 · 0 0

You just did! By asking about Him. God does want you to believe that He exists, but more than that, He wants you to know How much He loves you on a personal level. Once you get past the question of the reality of His existance then you will see with new eyes. No longer with critical skeptical speculation, but with 'awe' and amazement. You will discover a whole new perspective about His nearness to you. Afterall, He is there, you just have not yet recieved your spiritual sight. His word says that the design and wisdom of His creation declare His existance. He is looking for 'doors of faith' When we choose to believe, we literally and symbolically open the door of Heaven. And let God into our lives in a miraculous way. He waits for our genuine invitation. I assure you, though, the Bible has been translated into many different languages over the years, It still has the 'power of God's presence' within it's pages! The book of Hebrews 4:12 tells us that the Word of God is alive....etc. and still relevant and trustworthy today. It's main objective is to reveal God's heart toward His beloved creation, mankind. Sad to say, not everyone will praise Him, in spite of the truth they know in their hearts about Him, because they won't want to give up their evil practices. Look at satan, he knew God was real, and yet, he rebelled by refusing to worship God, causing his own demise. He does not demand praise from us. Though He is worthy. I personally praise Him, because I have seen and experienced His goodness in my life. I love Him because He first loved me and personally demonstrated that love to me. God wants your heart and soul to go way beyond believing that He is real. So, I say, Get out of that boat! And ask Him to enable you to mentally and emotionally embrace the truth of His unconditional love for you. You won't be disappointed if you truly believe. Be blessed in your journey with Him. Sincerely, Rose

2007-11-22 07:52:41 · answer #7 · answered by God's Fountain Pen 4 · 1 0

The proof everyone looks for is built into us. God gives us all broad but specific clues. He said He knows all of us before He forms us.. He says He makes us in His Image.. what does God says He is? Spirit.. so what does that make us? Spirit. Jesus says the flesh profits nothing. Get it yet?

2007-11-22 07:35:46 · answer #8 · answered by juliette 4 · 2 0

You said, "All of the so-called proof as of now can be explained through other means." Would you care to explain this through other means?

In facing questions like "Does god exist" it is important on the one hand to distinguish between "what has to exist" (sometimes called "necessity"), and what is "in need of an explanation" on the other hand. Somethings need an explanation while some things do not. For example, there is a formula for solving quadratic equations, which every high school student learns in algebra. On the other hand, first year students learn to prove that there are no integers, say "p" and "q", such that p divided by q equals the square root of 2. It follows from this that if god were to exist god could not find two such integers, either. This lack of a pair of integers is a necessary feature of algebra; that is to say, it is necessarily true once one discovers algebra. Does it make sense for someone say, "Well, do you have any evidence that there aren't integers, say "p" and "q", such that p divided by q equals the square root of 2?" Well, no, there is no "evidence." Indeed, it doesn't really make sense even to ask for evidence: the assertion that there are no such integers is true because it is necessary. This is a product of how one works through the questions arising from thinking algebraically.

We know, though, that there are lots of situations where asking for evidence, in other words asking for an explanation, makes good sense. Physics, chemistry, biology, botany and astronomy offer many good cases in point. It makes sense to ask, for example, "Why does the DNA in my mitochondria come only from my mother and not my father?" There is something very different about this question than the questions about algebra; biology questions, for example, seem to be the kind where providing evidence seems warranted. Physicists, too, are bent on providing explanations of this latter sort, and they are careful when they meet questions of the former sort not to confuse the two. So, for example, good physicists will happily assert that everything we see around us is subject to needing an explanation: people, trees, water, the solar system, galaxies, volcanic sand, bacteria, states of mind; all of these stand in reference to this latter sort of questioning: "Why are things this way and not some other way?" This happens in the Astronomy section of Y!A all the time. "Why is the sky blue", "What color are neutron stars," "Does the universe have an edge," "Why is the moon round," show up with astonishing regularity! So, why is the sky blue and not red? Why are all large solid bodies roughly spherical in shape? Why is the sun yellowish? Why is the solar system stable over long periods of time?

Moving on, care needs to be taken when lumping individual items together into systems and then asking questions about the whole system because not every attribute of a part of a system is an attribute of the whole system. Attributes of a planet, say, may or may not become an attribute of a solar system. It is not always clear how explaining the parts of a system explains the whole system. For example, no good physicist would assert that a wall made of small bricks was, therefore, a small wall; but it would still be a brick wall. A pile of $10.00 bills on a table isn't an "empty" pile when the money is spent. None of us would assert --except as a joke-- that the world is littered with empty piles of $10.00 dollar bills. So, it makes sense to ask "How did this pile of $10.00 dollar bills get here" without the answer being "Well, the pile was always here, it just has $10.00 dollar bills now, whereas before it was just an empty pile." The pile itself is susceptible to the same sort of questioning that the sky is, that the solar system is, that my DNA is. This, as will be seen in a moment, is the "god" question: what explains this pile of stars, galaxies, dust, dark matter and dark energy: the universe as a whole?

At each step in this process of asking questions we are asking for a set of reasons --sometimes those reason give evidence and sometime they do not-- which give us some explanation for what we see. When do we ever stop asking for an explanation or for evidence? When we cite reasons which are perforce necessary. For example, there is no equation from which one can derive the positions of the planets of our solar system. This is called, in the parlance of mathematicians, the "n-body" problem. If the solar system were composed of exactly two bodies which were themselves perfectly rigid spheres, and if they are reasonably small and at a great distance from each other, then there is such an equation which was derived by Newton. But when the number of bodies is greater than 2 then no such formula exists. There are *numeric* solutions generated by computers which can be quite good over long spans of time; but there is no general solution. No physicist searches for one; what's the point? Likewise, absolute zero is what it is. Occasionally on Y!A physics, one sees the question "can something get colder than absolute zero?" Asking that question makes clear that the person asking does not understand what "absolute zero" means, no why it follows from the way one thinks in the process of discovering physics. Both Absolute Zero and having no solution to the n-body problem are "necessary" features of physics. There is no going beyond them, it makes no sense to ask "What happens when you get colder than Absolute Zero?"

So, when one faces everything that physicists, biologists, psychologists, chemists, geologists and astronomers have discovered it does indeed make sense to ask, "Is there a reason for everything?" "What explains the universe as a whole?" One can, of course, choose not to face these questions, one can minimized these questions, one can dismiss these questions, but those are personal issues of integrity; yet as the discussion shows these questions still makes sense to ask; and to answer. So, what is the answer?

The answer to these questions is what Muslims, Jews, Christians, Taoists, Wiccans, and the like refer to when they use the term "god." As a consequence, there is no "evidence" for god, nor does god need further explanation. Quadratic equations have a general formula for their solution, the n-body problem is not solvable, light speed is absolute, god is the answer to a particular question and there is no "going beyond" these. There is no good way to answer the question, "Well, can you give me some evidence that there is no explicit formula for the n-body problem?" It follows from a whole way of thinking about algebra that it is so. The same is true for god. As I pointed out, god is the answer to, god follows from, a whole system of questioning.

HTH

Charles

2007-11-22 07:41:39 · answer #9 · answered by Charles 6 · 0 0

Something that cannot exist in the real world, cannot give proof of it's existence.
I wish Frodo was real, but he's not. And no amount of wishing can make that wish become fact.

2007-11-22 07:30:39 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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