is there a difference between these 2 bible verses?can both Christians and none christians answer please?

Question

Romans 3:10. (bible) As it is written THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NO, NOT ONE.
Romans 3:10:(Christian) As it is written no one can be righteous, no one can.

Romans 3:23.(bible) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:23(Christians) For all will sin, and come short of the glory of God.



is there a fault in the Christian view or do they match with the bible interpitation. Please forgive me if you see it my way.


See I see Roman 3:10 as God is yelling at you hungering for you to be righteous.

And Romans 3:23 saying to my soul that one can obtain the Glory of God, but no one has.

Answer 1

I'm not sure I understand your question. It appears that you are presenting two translations of scripture. And because of the difference in tenses, one translation seems rather hopeless, suggesting that people will *never* be righteous.
It's an interesting point.

What confuses me is that you're contrasting a "Christian" with a "Bible" view. But all your quotes are from the New Testament, which is the "Christian" portion of the Bible. So they're all Christian, aren't they?

Unless... could it be that one is the translation used by Messianic Jews?

Answer 2

Yep. I see differences in the verses you listed. And please remember, this is how I interpret each verse. It's not going to bother me if you disagree with my opinions.

Romans 3:10 (bible) is saying that no one is righteous. This can be interpreted to mean that people choose not to be righteous. In the christian version, it's saying that it's impossible for people to be righteous (rather than saying that righteousness is a choice).

Romans 3:23 (bible) says that everyone sins. Christian version seems to say everyone will sin but doesn't specify whether they are currently sinning.

**My view on all this: you should use the version that you feel is bringing you closest to God. You know (better than any mortal being) what your relationship with God is like. Therefore, you know better than I do what will help you.

Answer 3

Romans 3:10 is saying that no human is righteous. The only righteous being is God himself and Jesus. This was written by Paul to get a point across to the Jews that they are not more entitled than any one else. The same for today. just because you are a Christian, Jew, whatever, you are not above any one else.
Romans 3:23 tells us nobody will meet Gods standards. We all are sinners. It is in our basic being due to Adam's failure in the garden. It also tells us in 3:24 - 26 that all are made right because of Jesus's sacrifice. In this way we can be in the presence of God in all his glory.

Answer 4

In verse 3:10 God is not yelling at you. What you see in Verses 10-12 is a quotation from Ps 14:1-3. Furthermore, it is simply a statement of fact of our condition before God. We all stand equal no one is better or worse thus we have no room to judge each other.

Verse 3:23 is simply saying that every single person has sinned and thus cannot be saved via keeping of any rules or by any works because we have already fallen short of what God is, and that is perfect.

The entire book of Romans is a classic piece of Greek rhetoric in the form of a diatribe. Paul builds his argument very carefully around how we obtain justification in God's sight. What you see is a very small part of that argument.

Feel free to ask me for more info on Romans (or anything else).

Answer 5

First off; I am a Christain
Romans 3:10 are both saying the same thing. That verse was directed towards the Jewish priests and such. They thought they were better than everyone else. God is basically saying that no matter how hard you try, you can't be perfect. Only through the Son can you gain heavenly riches and a place in heaven. And the second one (Romans 3:23) is saying that, again, no one can achieve perfection. We all sin, but we all need to ask for forgiveness from God.

Answer 6

Romans 3:10 - We are all born with a sin nature because of Adam and Eve in the garden. This is saying we all need a savior and take on his rightousness.

Romans 3:23 - Keeping in mind 3:10 this is no one born of a women except Jesus that hasn't sinned. There for you fall short of God's expectations

Answer 7

Your answer for the Christian answer is wrong. We believe that no one is righteous and no one can become righteous unless God makes us righteous by what Jesus has done for us.

Number two. Every person has fallen short of the glory of God which means that every person is a sinner. The only way that we overcome our sin is by the Blood of Jesus. When we turn from our sins and receive Jesus as our Lord, God gives us the Holy Ghost(God Himself) God delivers us from our sins and gives us the power to have dominion over our sin. Therefore in God's eyes, we are no longer considered sinners and He sees us as He will see us as we enter into Heaven. (The righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. We do however fall into sin every once in a while because we live in a fallen world. But we sure do not continue the way we use to. We are growing in Christ Jesus who gives us the victory.

Answer 8

Yes, there are serious differences in each set of compared verses. The second one in each set is a watered down version of the first.
In Romans 3:10 the admonishment is emphatic in the first version!
In the second it sounds much like a suggestion.
Throw away the second version.

In the second set of verses the first verse again is emphatic. The second leaves a loophole in that it leaves one to believe he may not be sinful.


In both comparisons the first version is the one to go with, because each of them is the truth.

Absolutely no one is righteous, nor free from sin.
Absolutely no one has come to the glory of God.

That is why we NEED Jesus.

Answer 9

Actually, when looked at together, they are saying that no one is righteous, or perfect. Because we will all sin at some point in our lives, quite often, in fact, we have fallen short of the glory of God, which requires not sinning. Since we have sinned, we are also not considered "righteous", as told in Romans.

I think that the Biblical and Christian views align pretty well, at least in this case.

Answer 10

The only difference is the tenses! They are saying the same things! The One who obtained the glory of God was Jesus.
What we have to keep in mind is that the Bible is not perfectly translated.