Can you understand why people can not understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration?

Question

Is it that hard?

It's sad as much of the crime is in areas they can fit in.

T That sheriff of Arizona had 2,100 in his jail last month ans then sent out, 11,000 crimes and 8,400 felonies. It's hard to believe this and the sites you quote. Giving the whole bunch a bad name.

In dick Morris' book Outrage he documents that 1 in 7 on the southern border taht are caught are from terror countries.. Then I heard so you are racist against people that immigrate from terror countries. No here's the deal why are over 100,000 people from those countries breaking the law and flying half way across the world to sneak in? Isn't tha a costly and long way to travel?

Simas, good point, but the deal is ask any Mexican American or any other American that came here the legal way, you are right it is not easy and takes time. I h ve friends that did the same thing and took five years to get their family here. They are against it also. Oh the other hand my friends wife is from Brazil for only $3,000 a family of four can be taken to the border and "turned" over and then told to come back in a month and head up to St. Louis and be gone. Anotehr thing don't you understand that 9 million come here on visasand that 3 million of them jump the visa and hide out, these are from all over the world. Clinton kicked up legal immigration they say to 2.5 milllion a years and Bush has cut it to 1 million, but anyway you look at it that is over 10% of the population in the last two presidents, 10%. Now add the border people , northa nd south and the visa jumpers and others, boat, etc. There coould be up to 40-60 undocumented folks here.

You may want the crime and the drugs I don't know but it is only rational, it has nothing to do with "who', but "why". Legal is the right way, why overburden the country, you do it too mluch and it tips over. Also would it be a good idea to find out just who is here. Someone said many hospitals have closed, like 100 or so. It is only rational, no one else does it and we get picked on because of democracy, whereas the same countries abuse. Honestly it did doesn't matter they will do what they want, you and I are nothing compared to the big dogs. Take care.

Good point J2 and others.

Braut, Nitetr that's right

Answer 1

well Brain Trust.......who are you--exactly--that you can't understand this very simple, very clear, and very basic construct???????

Legal--compliant with the laws of the US

Illegal--Criminal

its really quite basic, quite simple, and incredibly freakin easy to understand.........

Answer 2

People do in fact understand the difference between legal and illegal. Illegals and their supporters just choose to avoid it. Instead they call people racists. There is nothing racist about wanting to live in a lawful land. The consensus here is that law abiding Americans come from all nations and walks of life and the same goes with illegals. The difference is that illegals and their supporters feel that they should be given something for their effort and trouble they went through for successfully committing a crime.

Answer 3

and what makes you guys so "american"?? all you had to do was come out of your momma in this country. what immigrants have to do is EARN money over in the poorer place, then come here and EARN more money to bring their families. shouldn't you be proud that people come here? if not, then good a lot of immigrants, illegal AND legal are leaving, because their countries are getting better and some joined the euro union. oh you didn't know, not every illegal is a mexican? all the government needs to do to solve the problem is an amnesty so then the ''criminals'' could legalize and that would take care of 2 problems at once, pissed off rednecks would change their mind and not be pissed and illegals wouldn't be criminals and could pay taxes even though many already do

Answer 4

Of course people understand the difference. On the other hand, some of the peripheral issues related to illegal immigration: speaking Spanish, having low-paying jobs, having large families, apply equally to legal and illegal immigrants. I think it hurts the "we just don't like illegals" argument when people get into a huff about, for example, a bank catering to Spanish-speaking customers.

Answer 5

To acknowledge the difference would mean admiting that illegals are criminals here in violation of our laws, so they hide behind sympathy and use the race card to avoid having to actually deal with the simple fact that people who come to this country in violation of our laws are CRIMINALS, just like a thief, rapist, drug dealer or murderer.

Criminals people who see an opportunity to take advantage of others or a situation and act, regardless of the consequences.

To say its for jobs we won't do etc etc is a cop out. The only reason there are these jobs is because they are here. They didn't come to do the jobs. That would imply there where all these open vacancies they justr wandered in and filled. NO. They came and slowly undercut salaries, worked for wages no one else would and essentially opened up jobs by their very existance. If they go away, employers will just have to pay a little more and we will have to pay a little more. Taxes will go donw, schools will become less crowded, hospitals will not be going bankrupt etc etc. I'd gladly cut my own lawn for that!

Answer 6

It is easy to say come in a legal way, but immigration laws need to be fixed, there's a lot of provisions in Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) that don't make sense.

An example is this law called Child Status Protection Act (CSPA) of 2002. Up to this point, there were SOME guidelines issued for SOME provisions of this law, however, there are other Sections that were not provided guidelines at all. Up to this point, Immigration Service refused to provide an agency guideline, and therefore leading to arbitrary or inconsistent decisions on certain cases by an adjudicator or an immigration judge. This leads to flooding the US Federal Courts of cases that should have been handled by an Immigration Court or an Immigration Judge.

Congress should find a common ground on fixing our immigration system that does not offer any form of amnesty, but rather consider those who're waiting in line for years. What we need is a comprehensive immigration reform that revised the flawed provisions of INA.

* I know that am out of the topic ... but people advocate on immigration reform!

Answer 7

Apparently it is. The Mayor of New York wants to give them New York drivers' licenses.

Answer 8

No. I think everyone knows the difference. Pro illegals just try to say "immigration" in general and make the rest of us look bad.

Answer 9

i don't understand why people don't get it. illegal activity is a way of life especially illegal activity without consequence. to continue on this path is a road to destruction. read the following portions from the links. take the time to browse the rest on the links. it's eye opening. Americans constitute approximately 5% of the world's population, but produce roughly 25% of the world’s CO2,[79] consume about 25% of world’s resources,[80] including approximately 26% of the world's energy,[81] although having only around 3% of the world’s known oil reserves,[82] and generate approximately 30% of world’s waste.[83][84] The average American's impact on the environment is approximately 250 times greater than the average Sub-Saharan African's.[85][86] This is, of course, a natural consequence of the U.S. producing about a quarter of the world's GDP.
With current consumption patterns, population growth in the United States is therefore more of a threat to the Earth's environment than population growth in any other part of the world [87][88][89][90][91] (currently, at least 1.8 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the United States each year; with the average Hispanic woman giving birth to 3 children in her lifetime).[92][93]
Paul Ehrlich made the point that a state or nation may have a large land area or considerable wealth (which implies, by conventional wisdom, that overpopulation should not be at play), and yet be overpopulated.[94] The U.S. state of Arizona, for example, has enormous land area, but has neither the carrying capacity of arable land or potable water[95][96] to support its growing population. While it imports food, using its wealth to offset this shortfall, that only serves to illustrate that it has insufficient carrying capacity. The only way that Arizona (and Southern California) obtains sufficient water is by extraction of water[97] from the Colorado River beyond its fair share[98] (and beyond its own carrying capacity of innate water resources), based on international standards of fair use per lineal mile of river.[99][100][101] FROM THE ARTICLE; In order to illustrate the severity of the illegal immigrant crime wave, the following information is quoted directly from the Government Accounting Office report of April 2005, "Information on Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal and State Prisons and Local Jails" (GAO-05-337R).

Objectives: To identify a population of aliens incarcerated in federal and state prisons during Fiscal Year 2003.

The GAO study involved a population of 55,322 illegal aliens. They were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about eight arrests per illegal alien. Ninety-seven percent had more than one arrest. Thirty-eight percent had two to five arrests; 32 percent had between six and 10 arrests; and 26 percent had more than 11 arrests.


Eighty-one percent of all arrests occurred after 1990.

The study group of 55,322 prisoners were arrested for a total of nearly 700,000 criminal offenses, average 13 each. About 46 percent were for drug and immigration offenses; about 15 percent for property related offenses — burglary, motor vehicle larceny, and property damage; and 12 percent were for murder, armed robbery, assault and sexually related crimes.

The balance were fraud, including forgery and counterfeiting; weapons violations; obstruction of justice; and DUI charges.

Eighty percent of all arrests occurred in three of the states bordering Mexico: California, Texas, and Arizona.

It is noteworthy that the 55,322 inmates represent only the criminals who were caught. FBI figures for 2005 reveal that overall, there are many unsolved crimes. By type, they include murder, 37.9 percent; forcible rape, 58.7 percent; robbery 74.6 percent; assault, 44.8 percent; burglary, 87.3 percent; larceny, 82 percent; and motor vehicle theft, an amazing 87 percent.

The foregoing figures indicate that a far greater number of illegal alien criminals escape apprehension and conviction by a ratio of 3-to-1.

Answer 10

No, it's just politically incorrect and that is really sad. Our politicians our selling us down the river in hopes of getting these trespassers to vote for them. Both sides of the isle are to blame on this issue.

Answer 11

For some I don't think it is a matter of understanding. They do understand, they just don't care.

It is like children wanting what they want when they want it.