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The Catholic Church is Christ's Church. All other churches are founded by men who are in protest of what Christ created. I belief that all the critics of Christ's Church hate the Church because His Church was given promises that their man made churches do not have. Christ promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church. This guarantees to all that the Church can never fall into apostasy. In doing so, the Scriptures promise that His Church is the "bulwark and ground of the truth" which is exclusive of His Church. He said that He would be with His Church until the end of the age and that the Church............
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2007-11-21 13:09:20 · 10 answers · asked by cristoiglesia 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

C. L. Richardson,

Christ is present in Body, Blood, Soul and divinity at every Catholic Mass and is the sole sole source of focus in worship. Can you say the same?
No!

BTW- Other Catholics and I are charismatic Christians!

2007-11-21 13:19:59 · update #1

jc,

Yes it was but that man was Jesus the Christ who was fully man and fully God.

2007-11-21 13:25:50 · update #2

Anna P,

Thee is a big difference and you chose the wrong one. Yours is the humanist church where the Church is God's Church.

2007-11-21 13:27:58 · update #3

gradjasan,

Where does such nonsense come from? It can only come from the imaginations of men. Try studying some real history instead of the fanciful kind.

2007-11-21 13:30:56 · update #4

John e, Thanks, I would have guessed that you were an atheist and I know you are not a historian either.

2007-11-21 13:42:18 · update #5

10 answers

AMEN.

by the way, it's not that they can't comprehend Catholicism, they don't want to comprehend it. either that, or they don't have the capacity to comprehend anything with their small minds. which one is it?

2007-11-21 13:18:46 · answer #1 · answered by Perceptive 5 · 3 4

Whoa, where did that come from?

Catholics started a religion which is not exclusively Christ's Church. The ONLY relationship that is important is the one you have with Jesus -- the religion itself doesn't really matter if that relalationship is there. When Jesus put his hand on Peter and said "Upon this rock I build my church," he wasn't thinking Church, he was thinking church. Big difference.

Wow, it's been a long time since I encountered a Catholic fundamentalist. First century Christians (among the "best") were most certainly part of the Body of Christ but also most certainly NOT Catholic. When Catholicism first started in Rome, it was quickly dominated by patrician Romans, later Italians, who took the wonderful new Christianity and turned it on its ear...where in the Bible does it say that there is need for intercession (as in the Pope and priests) to gain absolution? There IS no other absolver than Christ, and that is the first "heresy" of Catholicism; indulgences and other trappings of the Church added over time only add to the grievance. And transubstantiation is just downright strange, although I acknowledge the holiness of it to Catholics.

Why spew Catholic hatred in this forum? Isn't there enough taunting already?

2007-11-21 13:21:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anna P 7 · 4 4

It does not matter if one is catholic to be the one true church.Everyone who believes in Christ is considered the church.One need not even go to a church to be the church.We all should live our lives as a reflection of Christ and do what he teaches within the bible.By the way the catholic church was founded by man as well.Live and love as Jesus did,and we will never fall into apostasy.The catholic church is full of grievous sin as the priests are pedophiles I know I grew up as a catholic,and have drawn so much closer to God once I left Catholicism,I call myself a recovering catholic.I was never taught to have a personal relationship with Christ,all the rituals made no sense to a young girl wanting God and loving Jesus.I loved the stations of the cross and still do,but I will never go back to that horrible place that hurt young children then covered it up with religious bunk.They protected the perverts instead of healing the broken children.Its just disgusting to me.Every priest was either an alcoholic that wanted you to sit on their lap or a complete pervert.I have no respect for Catholicism.However I do love Mother Teresa as she did what no other catholic has done,lived and loved a Jesus.Jesus saves us not the catholic church,he was crucified for our sins not a priest,he rose again not the catholic church,get your facts straight.Shalom

2007-11-21 13:20:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

Well that's a lie. If you're Christ's church then why does he never visit? Looks like he's moving mountains for the charismatic bunch though. Hmm. I guess perhaps THEY OBEY HIS WORD.
If you ever wonder why you have no joy, it's because you have no Jesus.

Edit: Christ is not there in body as he promised the next time he returns bodily will be after the tribulation. Maybe if you had read the Word of God rather than various "church" statements you would know that.

The church of Christ receives prophetic messages through tongues and interpretations and witness healings and resurrections almost on a regular basis. The church of Christ is born again, made new, given a new nature. The church of Christ brings hope and healing to a hurting world. Can you say the same? No! All you can say is "hail Mary" 50 times a day, chanting repetitively and playing with your trinket beaded band like any other Pagan. You can wish Jesus to support your Mary-worship all you like. He never will, and he'll never show himself to willfully blind, idolatrous eyes.

Again I say - the feeling that something is lacking, which I know you have, is because you are lacking Jesus. If you love him then obey his commands. If you don't, stay Catholic.

Hope to see you in heaven someday.

2007-11-21 13:12:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

The Catholic Church is not Christ's church. It isn't even the same church founded by the apostles of Jesus.

Immediately after Jesus' death, the apostles and disciples of Jesus began spreading the good news. Early on they were chased and hunted and persecuted. Eventually, one of the disciples in the fourth century (over 300 years after Jesus had died), was able to witness to Emperor Diocletian of the Roman Empire. Emperor Diocletian decided to switch. At the time the rule was that whatever the Emperor was, so went the citizens of the Empire.

Basically a whole bunch of people who did not know Jesus, and quite a few who did know but hated all of his disciples, were all of a sudden forced to become Christians. And thus was born the Roman Catholic church. The first thing that happened is that everyone wanted to keep their old pagan holidays. Couldn't have pagan holidays, so they just changed the name of their pagan holidays and the Celebration of the birth of Saturn became the Celebration of the birth of Jesus. The Celebration of the Birth of Venus became the Celebration of the Resurrection of Jesus. And as you know nothing impresses Jesus more than celebrating pagan holidays in His name.

But the Catholics weren't done. The worship of the dead among the Druids became the Celebration of all Saint's day (though all the paganism was maintained, thank God). Oh, and let's add tree worship to Christmas (for Jesus loves tree worship, that's why we have Christmas trees and wreaths).

And that cross Jesus died on? Or how about the idea of the Trinity? Turns out they started from the same idea. When the Catholics got to Egypt, the Egyptians had their ideas. Gods only had power if they were in threes. Jesus was by himself, so they thought him powerless. Throw in a Father and a Holy Spirit (despite the fact that originally only Jehovah the Father was God), and you've got someone(s) the Egyptians can handle. The cross was originally the stand the Egyptian trinities used to use to stand together, but can't have that. So Catholics switched it to a symbol of Jesus' death, and let them keep it too.

The Catholic church may have been started by an disciple of a disciple (Diocletian), but it was not the original. And with all the compromises, it doesn't even come close to the original.




And for the record, I am a Christian. I did learn history (which is why I know what happened), and also read the Bible. Jesus never celebrated his own birthday, neither did the Apostles, nor did the Israelites. In fact the only two birthdays in the Bible (Pharoah Ramses, King Herod) are celebrated by pagans and end in murders (the baker, John the Baptist); so they aren't painted in the best light. The Bible specifically says don't celebrate the birth, but celebrate the death when you know what a person has done well.

There are good Catholic people, but the Catholic church itself is evil. You'd be hardpressed to find a good church. All I have ever found are whorehouses that sell God's name to the highest bidder, usually the gov'ts. Jesus said be no part of this world, as He is no part of this world. It is time we took that advice and lived for Him; not these governments, not these false churches, and not ourselves.

2007-11-21 13:25:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 6

Did God want "His" church to sell indulgences to the rich to forgive their sins? In order to finance the rebuilding of St. Peter's Basilica in 1516? That was the major incident the began the Protestant reformation.

Martin Luther simply stated that salvation could be attained through belief in God and Jesus as the Messiah. That the Catholic church was not necessary to mediate such. This is what Jesus himself taught.

The Catholic church allowed itself to become to embroiled in politics and finance (as it still is, along with most organized religions.).

The papacy has put itself before God on many occasions. And most recently has tried to use its self-perpetuated legitimacy to try to cover up the most aggregious of betrayals in their sex scandals.

The Holy Sea has found itself on the wrong side of many wars in the centuries past, most recently in the 20th century refusing to speak out against the known Nazi attrocities and aligning itself with the Nazi's facist allies.

Like many religions Christianity in all forms began as a noble endeavor to benefit mankind but has since been bastardized and corrupted by man.

Seek and find your own salvation, read the bible if you choose, meditate, go on a retreat, pray to Allah, seek the Buddha, read the Torah, go on a vision quest...do what ever you want...

But with a world with over 6 billion people and nearly 20 religions (that total at least .04% of the population each). It is awfully presumptuous for you to say that yours is the "only" way. Especially when over 2/3s of the world's population are not Christian at all.


In case you are wondering I am an atheist.

2007-11-21 13:38:41 · answer #6 · answered by john e 2 · 2 4

Why, yes. Anything that is not SPECIFICALLY addressed by the Catholic Church should be hated!

NOT!

No one would be safe! Argh!

2007-11-21 13:31:44 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

If you are a Christian, there is no way you have understood the Bible. So I do not think you hate everything you don't understand.

2007-11-21 13:47:14 · answer #8 · answered by neil s 7 · 1 1

Clearly you did not read the part in the New Testament where Jesus said "Love Thy Neighbor" and how he came not for the righteous but for the outcasts and sinners.

2007-11-21 13:16:05 · answer #9 · answered by . 3 · 4 4

Whatever...!

2007-11-21 13:37:31 · answer #10 · answered by Champion of Knowledge 7 · 1 2

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