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No. The Jews do not consider these official cannon. Jews are the chosen people of God, not Roman Catholics.

If the Jews don't include those in their scripture, how then should Christians include them in our Old Testement?

2007-11-21 07:33:03 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Because catholics are allowed to write their religion however it makes them happy in their own little world.

2007-11-25 07:20:28 · answer #1 · answered by timbers 5 · 0 1

The New Testament canon of the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible are the same with 27 Books.

The difference in the Old Testaments actually goes back to the time before and during Christ’s life. At this time, there was no official Jewish canon of scripture.

The Jews in Egypt translated their choices of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in the second century before Christ. This translation of 46 books, called the Septuagint, had wide use in the Roman world because most Jews lived far from Palestine in Greek cities. Many of these Jews spoke only Greek.

The early Christian Church was born into this world. The Church, with its bilingual Jews and more and more Greek-speaking Gentiles, used the books of the Septuagint as its Bible. Remember the early Christians were just writing the documents what would become the New Testament.

After the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, with increasing persecution from the Romans and competition from the fledgling Christian Church, the Jewish leaders came together and declared its official canon of Scripture, eliminating seven books from the Septuagint.

The books removed were Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom (of Solomon), Sirach, and Baruch. Parts of existing books were also removed including Psalm 151 (from Psalms), parts of the Book of Esther, Susanna (from Daniel as chapter 13), and Bel and the Dragon (from Daniel as chapter 14).

The Christian Church did not follow suit but kept all the books in the Septuagint. 46 + 27 = 73 Books total.

1500 years later, Protestants decided to keep the Catholic New Testament but change its Old Testament from the Catholic canon to the Jewish canon.

The books that were removed supported such things as
+ Prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45)
+ Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7)
+ Intercession of saints in heaven (2 Maccabees 15:14)
+ Intercession of angels (Tobit 12:12-15)

The books they dropped are sometimes called the Apocrypha.

Here is a Catholic Bible website: http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/

With love in Christ.

2007-11-22 01:37:49 · answer #2 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 3 1

Catholics do not care about what the Jews have.

The Catholic cannon was set at the Council of Rome in the 4th century. Prior to that, there was no official Christian Bible. For the first time, the Council laid out which religious books were to be considered part of the Bible and which were not.

The Catholic Bible has not changed since the 4th century. However, most Protestants use an abridged version of this Bible. They reject the books of the Apochrypha.

In short -- Catholics think that Protestants removed several books from the Bible because -- well, Protestants DID remove several books from the Bible.

It was the Catholics who declared that the books of the Bible were inspired by God. So -- a better question for you is "Why do Protestants believe that Catholics were right that God inspireb most of the books in the Bible, but believe they are wrong about the other books?" It kind of makes the whole thing seem a little dubious, don't you think?

2007-11-21 15:39:34 · answer #3 · answered by Ranto 7 · 1 2

What’s the difference between a “Catholic Bible” and a “Protestant Bible”?
Catholic and Protestant Bibles both include 27 books in the New Testament. Protestant Bibles have only 39 books in the Old Testament, however, while Catholic Bibles have 46. The seven books included in Catholic Bibles are Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Sirach, and Baruch. Catholic Bibles also include sections in the Books of Esther and Daniel which are not found in Protestant Bibles. These books are called the deuterocanonical books. The Catholic Church considers these books to be inspired by the Holy Spirit.

2007-11-21 15:46:04 · answer #4 · answered by Giggly Giraffe 7 · 0 0

Exactly.

-Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.
-Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.
-These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by God.

Why did God fail to provide an inspired and infallible list of Old Testament books to Israel? Why would God suddenly provide such a list only after Israel was destroyed in 70 AD?

Protestants, Roman Catholics and Greek Orthodox all have the same 27 Inspired books in the New Testament and the same 39 Inspired books in the Old Testament.
The only difference is the Apocrypha, a collection of
UN-inspired writings added to the inspired Canon in the year 1546 AD by the Roman Church.
For some reason the Roman Catholic church waited until 1546 AD in the Council of Trent, to officially add the Apocrypha to the Canon.

2007-11-21 15:39:20 · answer #5 · answered by RG 5 · 1 1

The 7 Books were in the older Alexandrian Jewish Canon of OT but were rejected by the Pharisee Jamnian Palestinian Canon of the late 1st cent which also rejected the books of the New testament.

If modern Non ChristianJews do not include the New Testament in their Bibles how then can Christians include the NT in their Bibles?

Actually some of the 7 Books met the Pharisee Jamnian standards of being be fore a certain date and being composed in Hebrew(like Sirach) and some of the ones accepted did not.

2007-11-22 18:49:29 · answer #6 · answered by James O 7 · 0 1

Apparently the Jews did acceptthem; see also the Dead Sea Scrolls. Second, unless I am mistaken; 'Hanakah' (a Jewish holiday) sounds like 1 Macabees 4.

2007-11-21 15:51:28 · answer #7 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 0 1

It is the same Jews that did not consider these books official cannon that did not consider Jesus the Messiah.

You are using an Old Testament canon that was adopted by people who denied Jesus Christ as Messiah.

2007-11-21 15:38:33 · answer #8 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 3 2

Protestants choose to follow the canon used by those who rejected Christ while Catholics follow the canon followed by Christians and even cited by Jesus in the Gospel.

The Jews took them away 100 years after Christ because they were used by the Christians.

2007-11-21 15:37:44 · answer #9 · answered by carl 4 · 1 3

Jews did have them in their canon, they took them out and the Catholic church kept them.

2007-11-21 15:40:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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