Pro-choicers- is it ok to kill a baby that is 15 minutes old?

Question

If the mom decided she didn't want the baby, didn't want the struggle of adoption would killing the baby be ok? The baby can't survive on its own and no baby should be unwanted.

What about a premie that can't breath on its own? Should a mom that doesn't want it be allowed to kill it if it has every possiblility of living a long life? What do you think the difference between a premie on life support and a "fetus" is?

Skalatino- recipes don't call for fetilized eggs either. If you have ever hatched chicks you can hold the egg up to the light and see the baby chick long before it hatches.

Answer 1

Shame on you for trivializing a serious situation. Your "questions" (that is not a question) is just giving fuel to a fire. Please focus on your own relationship with the Lord and stop worrying about everyone else. Third term abortions are very rare and illegal in many states. As are second term in many states.

Answer 2

Ok so I was a preemie on life support and I am very glad that I was kept alive. As for the 15 min thing, only if they were the extreme situations: rape, incest, and if the life of the mother is at risk. Even then I don't think to many mothers would say keep me alive and take my baby, I can have another. Although there are come woman out there.

As for having sex and not taking the responsibilities for that action, those people need to take a long look in the mirror and realize a few things that would be inappropriate for me to type out.

Answer 3

So, what states, allow later term abortions anyhow?

Most pro-choicer's support first-trimester abortions. With some few exceptions.


Once a child is out of the womb, do what you can to save it. And hopefully the parent's have the money to do so...

But yes, apparently parent's can refuse the medical treatment if they want. Eg. the Jehovah's Witness who can refuse blood transfusions... Is that okay?

Answer 4

Now, now, you're going to make pro-choicers uncomfortable with this question. And then they start saying things like:

"Why doesn't a cake recipe call for two baby chickens?"

Answer: Because we use chicken EGGS in a cake, not baby chickens. There's a big difference between a human egg and a human zygote (which has sperm & egg united and is now experience growth, cell development and consumption, which btw, means LIFE.)

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"A fully developed baby with a heart and brain is [living]."

Answer: A four-week-old fetus has a beating heart and has a brain stem and is living according to the scientific definition of life (consumption + cell development).

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"12-year-old rape victim..."

Answer: Abortion doesn't make the rape not happen. Abortion only executes an innocent human for the crime of his/her father. Which I find morally reprehensible, but I guess other people think it's perfectly okay as long as the child doesn't have a name yet.

"Baby with Downs Syndrome..."

Answer: I don't happen to carry any prejudice against people who have intellectual and physical handicaps. I think people who DO want to exterminate anyone with a handicap are taking a page out of Hilter's book -- that's how he got started, you know. The next thing you know, all sorts of things will be classified as "handicaps" -- like the "fat gene" or the "heart disease gene" or the genes that make a person homosexual. I think they all should be allowed to live because all human life is precious, but some people seem to think they have the authority to determine which humans are "good enough" to live and which aren't.

"Crack babies..."

I have a friend who's adopted three of them. They can actually turn out pretty darn normal, though their first couple of years are really, really rough. But again, I'm not in the habit of saying it's okay to kill humans who aren't up to some random standard.

Oh, and here's a good one:

"Nobody is forced to have an abortion."

Wrong-o. Hang out in a post-abortion support group some time. There are plenty of teens forced to have abortions by their parents...plenty of women of all ages forced to have abortions by their boyfriends/spouses...women forced to have abortions by a medical system and a society that is completely unsympathetic to helping a woman deliver a baby who might not live very long after birth...and then those poor rape victims from whom people recoil in disgust when they learn of their pregnancy, as if THAT were the right response to somebody who has been violated!

Women get abortions because they think they DON'T have a choice, not because they do. As feminist author Frederica Mathewes-Green once wrote, "A woman chooses abortion the way an animal caught in a trap chooses to gnaw off its own leg."

Abortion rights = legalized abuse of women in desperate need of help

Answer 5

there really is no point to this. there is no right answer. those who complain about murder always being wrong, also tend to support the military and the many murders it commits, and they also tend to be for the death penalty. which is odd. we tend to cross the line at a point to where the baby can support itself. its a compromise, and it can seem rather arbitrary, and hardly makes sense in all situations. but its probably the best thing we have. life is about choices. and some choices just cant be understood by all people or agreed upon. those who say the government should have the right to stop all abortion dont really look at the messed up nature of the adoption system, nor do they look at how those kids end up in 18 years. they also tend to think the government shouldnt be sticking its nose in peoples business, and yet should here?

when it comes down to it, i think the safest (and by no means perfect) answer is what we have now. no one is forced to have an abortion. no one is forced to have a child. a mother is going to get a coat hanger and possibly lose her own life if she is determined enough to end it. so there needs to just be a system in place where any person can end up making the right choice for them. no one wants to have an abortion. no one finds it fun, it will always be difficult. but its also not as clear as most people think it is.

Answer 6

Actually the baby is 15 minutes old the day of conception.

You have unintentionally made an interesting point about the "morning after pill", that is actually "an abortion in a bottle"!

Great point, and a very good question. I gave you your 3rd star.

Answer 7

How are you defining kill?

Is it alright to starve a newborn who was born without an intact brain and only has a heartbeat because the brainstem is all it was born with? Or should we stick a feeding tube in it for the 3-4 months it might make it?

Seriously, a brainstem, a heart, but no frontal lobe. You know, like they have when they are fetuses.

Answer 8

No, its not ok to kill a 15 minute old baby.

No pro-choicer supports "killing babies." They simply don't see eggs, embryos, fetuses and babies as all being the same thing.

BTW, there's also a huge difference between letting something die and killing it. You're not doing the pro-choice camp any favors with these sorts of gross generalities.

Answer 9

thanks for speaking truth- one of the arguments for abortion is that the fetus - no the baby, could not survive without the mother in the womb- well as this person just stated a baby just born cannot either- however it would be considered murder then. Let us call abortion what it is- murder for convenience of the mother. Ok , I know that I am going to hear - how about rape? I say, how about punishing the one that raped instead of killing the baby? And for saving the life of the mother- did you know that less than 1% of abortions are done for this reason- and the majority of abortions are just because the women is not ready to parent- that is what I call selfish.
4,000 abortions a day are preformed in USA alone- adoption is great choice, if it was not for 3 birth mothers that chose life, my two children, and myself would not be here. One minute after birth it would be murder, before birth we call it choice. Sad, huh?

Answer 10

The difference is I take an intelligent look at the facts. 200 cells is not a human being. A fully developed baby with a heart and brain is. It's a line I draw, and it should be obvious to you why. If it's not, I ask you why a cake recipe doesn't call for "2 baby chickens."