In a recent post, I saw the same old lies being hauled out about the Catholic Church. So, here I go, trying to right the wrongs again:
1) We do NOT worship Mary. Prayer is not worship. Praying to Mary is simple the act of asking HER to pray for US, just like you protestants ask your friends to pray for you.
2) To the person who said "I don't need a pope": Well then you have a problem with Jesus, because he established the papacy in Matthew 16 and John 21 and made Peter the first pope. There is an unbroken line of popes back to Peter: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
3) We do NOT teach a different gospel. The Catechism states:
"Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ.. ..It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who justifies us. It has for its goal the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life. It is the most excellent work of God's mercy" (section 2020).
Don't you Fundies ever get tired of lying? Isnt that a sin?
2007-11-21 06:04:06 · 12 answers · asked by Catholic Crusader 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
AND REMEMBER:
WE GAVE YOU YOUR BIBLE, the one you corrupted 1500 years later by ripping six books out of it
2007-11-21 06:12:01 · update #1
Sadly, they actually believe those lies- and they dont want to see the truth because then they would realize how horrible they've been to us.
2007-11-21 06:09:24 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Wow, a lot of hate there....
1. I think that praying to Mary is considerably different than asking friends for prayer. It presume Mary has a special place with God to intercede. Per the Bible, that is the work of the Holy Spirit
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
2. I look at these verses and see no office of the Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic church, yet Christ is the head of His church. If the church was a country, and you said that a King was the head of yours, and I said that the president was the head of mine, it would be true they are different churches
Colossians 1:18 And He is the head of the body, the church,
3. As for point three, another Gospel means anything taught apart from what the apostles taught (this would include catechism)
Galatians 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
Finally, the "we gave you the Bible" bit is old..... I was just reading Eusebius this morning, and his assertion that the Bible was agreed in canon at the end of the first century. 250 years before the catholic church gave it to us......
2007-11-21 14:12:01 · answer #2 · answered by Cuchulain 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I don't mind the catholic church-am not a fundie, am in fact a devout agnostic. I would disagree with you on point number two however. In the original language Jesus says to Peter "thou are a rock" the translation literally means small stone or pebble--and on this "rock" I will build my church. the second rock translates as bed rock. What is meant I think is Jesus was saying you are a rock peter-u are solid-but just a pebble--and on the bedrock of my teachings my philosophy will I build my church. I think the catholics are wonderful people, the pope is a great guy--i just tend to think that the whole thing was founded on a misinterpretation of what the original words meant.
2007-11-21 14:11:12 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Goals are good, but I would like to know the specific verses from the Bible that point number 3 comes from.
2007-11-21 14:19:56 · answer #4 · answered by Chapter and Verse 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No offense intended here- but you really need to study church history from a non-Catholic perspective. Apparently there is a lot you do not know about catholicism. The history of the Roman Catholic church is ugly. You should check it out before you defend what you do not know.
2007-11-21 14:11:56 · answer #5 · answered by Poor Richard 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No, only God is eternal but cultivated ignorance is harder to kill than the villian monsters of serial horror films
2007-11-21 16:34:07 · answer #6 · answered by James O 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i understand your points, but you have to understand that it's simply out of ignorance that they state these things....
like a person who doesnt understand evolution saying "a monkey cannot give birth to a human"
2007-11-21 14:12:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe in sin and I've seen way too much of what catholics do to NOT realize that they do indeed worship mary and pray to graven images. When will you stop deceiving yourself and trying to justify your actions?
2007-11-21 14:09:28 · answer #8 · answered by Keltasia 6 · 1⤊ 4⤋
Stupidity is not necessarily eternal. When religion becomes obsolete, at least that form of stupidity will have ended.
2007-11-21 14:54:25 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
If you prayed to a statue of the FSM, isn't that worshiping him, I think you are only kidding yourself, no offence
2007-11-21 14:09:04 · answer #10 · answered by GEISHA 3 · 2⤊ 3⤋