There is no mention in Egyptian writings of the Israelites.
There is no mention by other nearby civilizations of thousands of people wandering around in the desert.
etc.
Does anyone else find this troubling?
2007-11-21
04:40:45
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Matt E
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I don't think it is nonsense. It bothers me. But I will clarify.
I meant the first four books (the Torah if you will) the direct Word of God makes no mention of (for one thing) anything smaller than you can see. I am aware of human limitations of that time, but why are they relevant?
I will concede the other two points as possibly explanable but still bothersome.
2007-11-21
05:14:59 ·
update #1
But I will clarify again. 1) Mention of the Exodus (not Israelites/nomads). 2) Tens (or hundreds) of thousands of people moving about in a small area (I have been there which raised the question in my mind) for forty years should have attracted some attention.
2007-11-21
05:21:50 ·
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Mentioning the Hebrews is (to me) akin to writing about WW II and mentioning the Axis in passing.
2007-11-21
05:29:32 ·
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Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
Last time I checked you could see flesh and blood. Dust too. That the life of the flesh is in the blood (flesh needs blood to survive which is obvious) changes nothing. I am curious who the I is that is giving blood on the altar though.
2007-11-21
05:35:39 ·
update #4
oh s.h.i.t,
my bad yall
pls ignore the typo's
ill write a new book as soon as im done partying aight ?
2007-11-21 04:49:22
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes there is.
Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Your question is fraudulent nonsense.
2007-11-21 12:49:40
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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The Egyptians DID mention the Habiru/Apiru in Egyptian texts - the Hebrews (descendants of Ibrim) to you and I. For example, in the Amarna Letters to Pharaoh from the city-state rulers of Palestine and Syria, this Habiru group was comprised of stateless persons. Prof. David Rohl claims he has identified the tomb of the patriarch Joseph, containing his statue in the robes of a high ranking official. Read his book and learn something.
"Conventional academic wisdom holds that the OT is little better than a fairy story because no archaelogical evidence for it has been found. On the contrary, says Rohl. There's evidence galore, and all sorts of specialists have been staring at it for decades. The mistake, he argues, is that the ancient world has been dated wrongly."
As for the existence of things smaller than we can see... Thousands of years ago the Psalmist wrote about the embryo in its mother's womb - unseen by human eyes - with a reference to DNA - 'Your eyes saw my substance being yet unformed, and in your book they all were written; the days fashioned for me when as yet there were none of them.'
2007-11-21 13:06:36
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answered by Annsan_In_Him 7
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no considering the other million questions i see pointing out flaws about a book written a gazillion years ago that doesnt mention things we know about a gazillion years later
no not really very troubling at all
they didnt have airplanes and satelittes to know about stuff back then
the bible was a great book of knowledge for it's time
ever since then its just been used as a showpiece to control people it still controlled people back then but had a lot of knowledge in it
2007-11-21 12:46:22
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answered by Anonymous
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I beg to differ...
"There is no mention in the bible of the existance of anything smaller than we can see."
Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
"There is no mention in Egyptian writings of the Israelites."
Would you chronicle how the God of slaves defeated your multitude of gods and wiped out your entire army? Here is how they documented this event...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele
The Egyptians picked and chose what they wanted to record. If you read the account of the Merneptah stele, it notes that "Israel is laid waste; its seed is no more.". True?
They do the same thing today. I went to Egypt and was shocked to discover that they actually won the Six Day War.
In the ancient Egyptian days, yes, they were meticulous record keepers. But they carried these records into the next life. Do you really think they would carry an immense defeat--from SLAVES--at the hands of one single God over their own myriad of gods?
A papyrus called the Admonitions of Ipuwer describes a catastrophe like the Exodus. The author of Admonitions complains of a lack of authority, justice and social order as if the central authority no longer had the will or power to keep control. He also complains about barbarians and foreigners as if the country has been invaded. Nobody is planting crops because they are not sure what will happen. The southern most districts are paying no taxes. He complains that the Nile has strangely turned to blood and "If one drinks it, one rejects it as human (blood) and thirsts for water." He wrote, "Grain is perished on every side." Gardiner dated its events to the FIP but it is conceded that the language and orthography belong to the Middle Kingdom [Wilson, 1969c, p 442]. Velikovsky noted the obvious similarities with the plagues of the Exodus and pointed out that, contrary to Gardiner, Sethe dated the Ipuwer Papyrus to the SIP [Velikovsky, 1952, p. 48-50]. Van Seters also argues for an SIP date [Van Seters, 1966, p103-120].
"There is no mention by other nearby civilizations of thousands of people wandering around in the desert."
First, they wandered in the desert of Sinai for 40 years. Which nearby people are you talking about that was not eventually defeated and wiped out that actually kept recorded records? Egypt, Nineveh, and Babylon were the record keepers of history. Two of which were not great powers yet. The third believes in revising history for the sake of "saving face".
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2007-11-21 12:44:16
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answered by Anonymous
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What's your source supporting your statement? Have you read all the ancient Egyptian writings of the era? What I find troubling is when statements are made without supporting documentation or concrete evidence.
2007-11-21 12:44:24
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answered by Anonymous
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There weren't any too many good microscopes around at that time . The bible doesn't say much about orbiting the earth , or our space station either .
2007-11-21 12:54:30
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answered by Anonymous
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If they're wandering alone in the desert, who would record it except themselves? And I believe you're wrong about the Egyptians.
2007-11-21 12:47:45
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answered by Anonymous
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What I find most troubling, is that after leading the israelites in the desert for so long, they end up in the one spot of land in that damned place without a single drop of oil.
2007-11-21 12:44:10
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answered by Menon R 4
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Why should there be?
Those things have nothing to do with the message of the Bible
How come George Washington's shoe size is not in the history books? BECAUSE IT DOESNT MATTER. He would still be the first president
2007-11-21 12:44:52
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answered by Catholic Crusader 3
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Not really troubling, but interesting. Evidence of another philosophical paradigm is always interesting in my opinion.
2007-11-21 12:44:05
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answered by metanoia 3
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