Christians; does your god know everything that will happen?

Question

If he does, what's the use of praying? Will prayer change what your god has foreseen? Then his premonitions are flawed....

If he doesn't, then he's not an omniscient ("knows all") being, and ergo, not an omnipotent ("can do all") one either (If he "can't know all" then he "can't do all").....

Are we clear now?

Or will blind faith and dogma take over logic once more?

Let's see how you wedge in the "free will" argument.....

For the record, Free Will cannot coexist with an "omniscient" god, simple as that....

Give it some thought and you'll see why...

Answer 1

If god is omniscient he knows everything thats going to happen. If people have free will they will decide whats going to happen. Add those two togethr, and that sure must put god in a rather powerless position doesnt it. The fact he cant shape the future, but knows whats going to happen.

Answer 2

So here we go for the thousandth time:

The Bible says God knows the end from the beginning. Which means that God knows what the outcome is, and He knows what all the paths to that outcome are, but I think what He loves most about our free will is that He doesn't care to know what our next choice is. He will provide nudges, punishments and blessings to the path that He wants for you, but He won't make you do anything. Our choice is our own. Where we end up after we have made that choice is what God knows. He is in fact omnipotent, and omniscient. He knows all things and sees all things. He peers into the heart of man, rather than looking on the outside as we do. If everything is an open book to Him, how can He not know all things?

Now the Bible also says to "pray without ceasing." Jesus says to go to your private prayer closet when you pray. So the commandment to pray is definatley there. What I find interesting is that Moses turned the hand of God MANY times when the Israeli people were sinning. I don't think that without Moses Israel would be here today. So even though God knows all things and sees all things, His mind can be changed. He was reminded CONSTANTLY about His covenant with Israel, because of Israels sin. Personally, my God can do all things, and the Bible says that His ways are not our ways.
Your so called "blind faith and dogma" has no ground here. The Bible is clear on this matter, and had you read it before coming on here to insult Christians yet again, we wouldn't have had this waste of time.

Answer 3

Yes, God the Father knows the end from the beginning. He has shown that revelation to many prophets over the ages.
That being said, it does not imply fate in all that happens. We do still have our agency to account for.
A diligent father and mother know their children well enough to accurately guess how each will respond in a given circumstance. God is that way with His children, all of us. However, we are still accountable for the decisions we make, for good or for ill. God knew for instance that Judas would betray Jesus. He knew that Cain would slay Abel. He knew that Joseph Smith would fulfill his mission to carry out the restoration of the Gospel. He knew that Jesus would carry out the atonement for mankind. If one of us fails in our foreordained mission, then someone else will fulfill it for us. However, He knows us well enough that He gave us assignments that were in keeping with our abilities, thus He was able to plan and know the outcome from the beginning.
Thus, omniscience and agency do coexist.
When we pray for some blessing, we are exercising our agency to be obedient to His desires for us. He grants that blessing and it is most likely already accounted for in His plan for us. As He grants our petitions, His omnipotence is manifest. He granted unto certain prophets the power to seal on earth as well as in Heaven and to loose on earth as well as in heaven. That is another manifestation of His omnipotence.
His spiritual influence is everywhere. Thus, He is omnipresent as well.
This is not blind faith or mere dogma. It is logical proof obtained by experimentation and witnessed results.
I am a scientist and a lawyer. I am trained to be skeptical and to prove things out. I have done so and have witnessed the results. It is true. I so testify.

Answer 4

"Free will" is merely the ability to make a moral choice, and then be held accountable for the consequences.

If I know that playing in the street may get you injured, that does not affect your decision as to whether you play in the street.

Even if I know that you will play in the street, that does not affect you decision to do it. It is still your decison.

So free will can and does exist where an omniscience God rules.

Simple logics.

Answer 5

God is All mighty and does know all things. If you read scripture then you would know that God even knows what could have happened but didn't.

Payer is important because we are too communicate and have a relationship with God. We go to God in prayer with all kinds of requests and praise, but God's will is done. By the way, God knows weather or not your going to pray and if you do what your going to pray for.

I don't expect you to understand God using your logic... Besides, what good is your logic?

Answer 6

Yes. He has a master plan that was set in motion when He planned Creation. He chose you, me, and every soul that was ever and will ever be born before the foundations of the world were laid. He is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He is infinitely powerful, completely holy, perfectly pure, absolutely loving, and is completely righteous. His wisdom is perfect, it is our understanding of His wisdom that is imperfect. He gave free will to every human being alive, because by faith in His Son, we are made His children. He gave us the choice of doing good or evil. And the consequences of humanity's sin have turned the world into what it is today. God does not cause terrible things to happen in the world. Satan and his fallen angels (1/3 of the angels from heaven) cause much of it, and the rest is caused by sin. A Christian can speak with God personally anytime he/she wants just by praying to Him. And you hear His answers with your heart, and you can see His answers in your life with your eyes..

Answer 7

I fail to find in the bible where it says God i all knowing, granted I have only read to Esther at this point, but periodically God is pointed out as non omniscient, I would suggest trying to Read the Bible, Koran, Torah before making disparaging remarks to peoples beliefs. It kinda makes you out to be a jerk you know... Knowledge is power!!!

Answer 8

You are simply confusing the difference between being an OBSERVER and being a DIRECTOR.

God has given each and every one of us the gift of free will. We are free to make whatever decisions we wish.

I believe that God is apart from (separate from) our mortal concepts of time and space. He has the ability to "see" and "know" everything that has happened, as well as everything that WILL happen. This, of course, does NOT mean that He decides what's going to happen. He's merely observing the results of our decisions.

Are we clear now?

Answer 9

Is God not the one God does he not belong to all not just Christians.Maybe he refuses to let our brains develop enough to think that far a head and so on and so forth etc.etc.etc.

Answer 10

Your "god" is too small, my deluded friend.

Omniscient means just that: "ALL knowing". God not only knows what will happen...He knows what COULD also happen in an infinite number of variables. He knows what happens if you turn right, or turn left, or go straight or hop on one foot for an hour.....ALL knowing. ALL means ALL. God "foresees" all possibilities.

You cannot put your artificial limitations on the Limitless One.