He keeps trying to convince me the Earth's only 6,000 years old and the Bible is literal truth. NOTHING I say seems to work when he debates me. "Fossil's can't be that old. Radiocarbon dating doesn't really work. It's a lie" "Everything worked with Noah's Arc because it's a miricle" "It's perfectly logical that the population of the Earth grew from Noah's family to bilions across the globe in a few thousand years because God just created extra people. That's also why we're not ll inbred. Because God just created more people all over the globe after the flood."
It goes on and on like that all night. Does anyone have an argument that will at least shut him up?
2007-11-20 14:30:18 · 16 answers · asked by mental1018 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I should add that I'm in the Air Force, and he's one of my officers.
2007-11-20 14:42:55 · update #1
He is the supervisor. My next step would be to get our Commander involved, and guess who HE goes to church with....*sigh*
As for the Gen argument, he says it's the same story. First part is Macro look at creation, other is the Micro....
2007-11-20 14:54:54 · update #2
Oh geez. I'm so sorry.
Ok, let's see here. He doesn't believe in radiocarbon dating...does he realize that it is one of many ways of dating now? Once his dating argument is shot down, everything else falls. The oldest found homosapien predates noah, only lived to be around 30 years old (not hundreds like the bible states in case he tries the "well, it must have been a son of adam from before the flood), and is genetically proven to share a common ancestor with other primates.
But truly...he won't accept anything, he's an idiot.
2007-11-20 14:38:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
As an old earth creationist ask him to explain the gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 or ask him where the stuff in the beginning came from.
2007-11-20 22:43:37 · answer #2 · answered by mrglass08 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
no, anything we or you say he just needs to say "Not true" my advice just walk away. tell him that you don't care and walk away. If you must i do believe that even in the bible it states that a second to god is 1000 years on earth (or something like that) if you want you can look it up in the bible. and if he says that he's trying to save you from hell, these type of people like to do these sort of things, just ask him that if god really cares so much what people think then we wouldn't have been given the gift to make up our own minds. if god will send me to hell because i choose to believe science then he is no god at all
or just toss out this quote:
"Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god? - Epicurus (341-270 BCE)"
2007-11-20 22:48:09 · answer #3 · answered by crl_hein 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
My best suggestion? Talk to him only about work, and ignore him when he starts gassing on about his religion.
I'd also consider complaining (in private) to his supervisor. If you're annoyed, other co-workers are probably annoyed, too.
Really, the workplace is not the place to get into religious discussions unless both parties are genuinely interested in the subject.
2007-11-20 22:43:00 · answer #4 · answered by Chantal G 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I wish there was but he is completly infected by the mind virus of religion. You could tell him that maybe, you are infected with a mind virus. It is effecting your ability to understand what the bible really is, a book written 2,000 years ago by people who knew limited about the world. But then again, if he really thinks the Earth is only 6,000 years old, nothing you can say can change his tiny mind.
2007-11-20 22:37:02 · answer #5 · answered by skunkgrease 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Aks why all of these "miracles" only happen so long ago that it cannot be verified? In other words, why did god help the Jews in Egypt but not Germany?
Edit: If you're in the military, contact the ACLU, before you get friendly fire threats like that poor kid in Iraq.
2007-11-20 22:37:38 · answer #6 · answered by neil s 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I'm afraid there's not much you can do. Arguing back really only gives him an excuse to continue. Try just saying, "all right, you convinced me" and then ceasing to argue. Even if he doesn't really believe that you have been convinced by his arguments, there's not much he can do if he can't goad you into any more counterarguments.
2007-11-20 23:32:13 · answer #7 · answered by Viola Cesario 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There may be no hope when they're that irrational and devoid of good science.
I suppose you could always just say that you'd rather not discuss it.
Either that or find some kind of "baby steps" book about very basic geology, and feed him facts that he won't argue with first, then build from there. Because when they're that blinded, you gotta start from square one.
2007-11-20 22:38:39 · answer #8 · answered by kriosalysia 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Ask him to remember that JESUS said "The worker is worthy of his hire" and that in order for this to remain true that you both need to BE ABLE TO DO YOUR JOBS. If this does not work, I would complain to a supervisor as this is creating an environment which is making it hard for you to work
2007-11-20 22:37:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anne Hatzakis 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Oh crap, how can someone who works with 25 million dollar airplanes based on the concept on engineering principles not believe in carbon dating.
Go and quickly outrank both of them and tell them to shhh.
2007-11-20 23:40:30 · answer #10 · answered by Moo 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋