Jehovah Witnesses/ and the Gen Public. Why Does Ezekiel 18:4 say that the Soul WILL DIE ???

Answer 1

A "soul" is a life, with no implication regarding some immortal otherwordly entity. Each deceased life is in Jehovah God's remembrance (with the potential for future resurrection), but the dead do not exist anywhere but memories until and unless the life is resurrected.

(Ezekiel 18:4) The soul that is sinning - it itself will die.

(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all

(Ecclesiastes 9:10) there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol ["hell"]

(Genesis 2:17) But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.”

(Genesis 17:14) And an uncircumcised male who will not get the flesh of his foreskin circumcised, even that soul must be cut off from his people. He has broken my covenant.”

(Judges 16:30) And Samson proceeded to say: “Let my soul die with the Philistines.” Then he bent himself with power, and the house went falling upon the axis lords and upon all the people that were in it, so that the dead that he put to death in his own death came to be more than those he had put to death during his lifetime.

(Job 33:22) And his soul draws near to the pit, And his life to those inflicting death.

(Psalm 78:50) He did not hold back their soul from death itself; And their life he handed over even to the pestilence.

(Isaiah 53:12) he poured out his soul to the very death

(Acts 3:23) Indeed, any soul that does not listen to that Prophet will be completely destroyed from among the people.’

(Revelation 16:3) And the second one poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became blood as of a dead man, and every living soul died, yes, the things in the sea.

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Answer 2

I believe there are two deaths. The temporal (physical) which is the separation of the spirit from the body of flesh and bones and the spiritual which is an eternal separation from God or all goodness. The latter, to me, is signifantly more terrifying, and I think that Ezekiel 18:4 is speaking about the latter. Why must we jump to the conclusion that the word die means "to become nonexistent," as it pertains to the spirit of man?

The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) is one example of a pillar of evidence supporting that the soul is immortal. However, this parable may seem to contradict Ecclesiastes 9:5-6,10, which states, "the dead know not anything."

Referring to these verses, Joseph Fielding Smith wrote, " . . . when death intervenes, the body is laid away in the grave peacefully and that it knows nothing as to the affairs of a busy world." (Answers To Gospel Questions, Vol. 4, p.183)

Non-LDS scholar Donald C. Fleming agrees: "the dead know nothing: the context (or one look at a corpse) makes the meaning obvious." (F. F. Bruce, The International Bible Commentary, p. 699).

In verse 10, the word "grave" is translated from the Hebrew word sheol, which has several meanings depending on the context in which it is used. It can be translated as "hades", "grave", "hell", "pit", or "world of the dead." Thus, the term can refer to the spirit world or part of it. But the context of Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10 is describing a different place; a place where there is "no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom"; a place where "the dead know not any thing." What could be more descriptive of the "grave" or tomb in which a corpse is laid to rest? Moreover, since a corpse has no mental or emotional faculties, it cannot do anything, much less praise the LORD.

But that pertains to the corpse of a person, not the spirit. I believe that to be absent from his life is to be present with the Lord. I base this belief off the following scripture:

Physical death is the separation of one's body and spirit:

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7, cp. James 2:26)

When a person's spirit and body separate; one's thoughts depart with the spirit; leaving behind a body in which all thoughts perish:


"His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Psalms 146:4)

Note that the "he" in Psalms 146:4 must be referring to the body, because it is the body that "returneth" to the earth, not the spirit (cp. Genesis 3:19 & Ecclesiastes 12:7). Likewise, since it is the spirit that "knoweth the things of a man"; all of one's knowledge also perishes within the body after the spirit leaves. Consequently, the dead (i.e. corpses) know nothing and will eventually go to the grave.

"The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence." (Psalms 115:17, cp. 6:5)

Answer 3

I believe there are two deaths. The temporal (physical) which is the separation of the spirit from the body of flesh and bones and the spiritual which is an eternal separation from God or all goodness. The latter, to me, is signifantly more terrifying, and I think that Ezekiel 18:4 is speaking about the latter. Why must we jump to the conclusion that the word die means "to become nonexistent," as it pertains to the spirit of man? The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) is one example of a pillar of evidence supporting that the soul is immortal. However, this parable may seem to contradict Ecclesiastes 9:5-6,10, which states, "the dead know not anything." Referring to these verses, Joseph Fielding Smith wrote, " . . . when death intervenes, the body is laid away in the grave peacefully and that it knows nothing as to the affairs of a busy world." (Answers To Gospel Questions, Vol. 4, p.183) Non-LDS scholar Donald C. Fleming agrees: "the dead know nothing: the context (or one look at a corpse) makes the meaning obvious." (F. F. Bruce, The International Bible Commentary, p. 699). In verse 10, the word "grave" is translated from the Hebrew word sheol, which has several meanings depending on the context in which it is used. It can be translated as "hades", "grave", "hell", "pit", or "world of the dead." Thus, the term can refer to the spirit world or part of it. But the context of Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10 is describing a different place; a place where there is "no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom"; a place where "the dead know not any thing." What could be more descriptive of the "grave" or tomb in which a corpse is laid to rest? Moreover, since a corpse has no mental or emotional faculties, it cannot do anything, much less praise the LORD. But that pertains to the corpse of a person, not the spirit. I believe that to be absent from his life is to be present with the Lord. I base this belief off the following scripture: Physical death is the separation of one's body and spirit: "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7, cp. James 2:26) When a person's spirit and body separate; one's thoughts depart with the spirit; leaving behind a body in which all thoughts perish: "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Psalms 146:4) Note that the "he" in Psalms 146:4 must be referring to the body, because it is the body that "returneth" to the earth, not the spirit (cp. Genesis 3:19 & Ecclesiastes 12:7). Likewise, since it is the spirit that "knoweth the things of a man"; all of one's knowledge also perishes within the body after the spirit leaves. Consequently, the dead (i.e. corpses) know nothing and will eventually go to the grave. "The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence." (Psalms 115:17, cp. 6:5)

Answer 4

Gen 2:7 says And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.
this shows that we ARE souls, not given a soul. since all that sin dies, that is why eze 18:4 says that the soul that sins will die

Answer 5

It was written Under Inspiration.Then Religious leaders have twisted it into " The Soul Cannot Die".. so whose Right, The Bible or Man?

Answer 6

Because the soul is not an entity that survives on after the body dies.

The soul is the person and can die.

Answer 7

Many people believe the word soul there means the physical body ..not the spirit. God said we are all created in HIS Image and that He is Spirit .. that means we are spirit and not soul. The soul may be the container on the earth of the spirit.. ( see Exodus 33 .. God wears flesh there a few times ) .. oh and by the way.. I am no Jehovahs Witness if you are refering to the religion.

God formed our bodies to hold the spirit. Notice that Jesus shed His own body while on the earth and then raised it again later. ( only God is the Giver of life.. so to me this points out that Jesus is God Who is able to do all things )

Answer 8

The death of the soul is the second death. That happens to those poor souls cast into the lake of fire.

I'm not a Jehovah Witness

Answer 9

This Bible verse shows clearly that the soul is not immortal.
According to Genesis 2:7 a man is a soul ("he [Adam] became a living soul").


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Answer 10

cause the body is a soul the whole breathing living part .
so if you die the soul dies.