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1. Is there a difference between the baptism when Christ was there, and the baptism after Christ?
2. Why did Jesus get baptised?

2007-11-20 03:28:03 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

10 answers

I will attemp to answer your questions as short as concise as possible

1) Before Christ's death, burial, ressurection, and asscention... John the baptist the forerunner for Jesus baptized people through water immersion into the baptism of repentance (changing ones mind,works, and heart/turning the other way) to be forgiven. After Jesus shed his blood for our sins we no longer needed to prove how much we have changed by our works, ( which many couldnt and still cant do) all we need to do is accept his sacrifice and his baptism (in the Holy Ghost/Spirit) and we are forgiven... but on the heals of that becuase Jesus came to fulfill the law and not wipe it out he commanded that we, as he did be baptized also with water immersion, as a symbolization of entering into a new life with him and washing away of the old(regeneration).... proof of this is found throughout the new testiment, but one scripture in particular is in John 3:5 where Jesus said except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

2) Jesus got baptized to follow the ordinance and to fulfill the proficy that was fortold. Jesus was yet a man and did not or could not obtain the pwer of the Holy Ghost or recognition and open approval from God his father until he had done so (read the account of Jesus baptism)... after he was baptized, filled with the Holy Spirit, tested and tried in the wilderness was when his mistry began, and also when you seen him performing miracles

final note: It is not neccesary that a man be baptized in water to be saved ( i.e. the man on the cross next to Jesus was saved) but for a christian who wants to walk in the Full Power and Authority of Holy Ghost through Jesus Christ that God wants them to......THEY MUST.... its all matter of obedience and relationship

hope this helps

2007-11-20 05:20:14 · answer #1 · answered by pn2short 1 · 0 0

1. Yes. Today's baptism is a believer's way of symbolically "dying" and "resurrecting" as a result of the spiritual rebirth (see John Chapter 3). The baptism in Jesus' day was for repentance ONLY.

2. Read the Scriptural accounts of Saul and David being anointed King of Israel. What is the common denominator in both instances? ANSWER: an OT prophet, appointed by God, stood as God's witness that the man was chosen to lead the people. He also literally anointed the new King with oil. In Hebrew, the word anointed is "mechiach," which is transliterated into the English word "messiah." So while both Saul and David were the "mechiach" of their day, their anointing merely prefigured Jesus' anointing, which was accomplished by the Holy Spirit as it descended upon Him, appearing to be a dove. Oil has always symbolically stood for the Holy Spirit. So Jesus' anointing fulfilled the symbolism of those earlier anointings.

2007-11-20 03:35:46 · answer #2 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0 0

The baptism of John was a water only baptism and was symbolic of the coming of the kingdom of God. Baptism after Christ is with the Holy Ghost and with fire, which is symbolic of power and the fact that the kingdom of God has come. (Luke 3:16).

2007-11-20 04:32:10 · answer #3 · answered by Capri 1230 3 · 0 0

Jesus was baptised to fulfill scripture and to accept his mission God gave him. Also, are you talking about spiritual baptism or physical? If it's physical-there is no difference. Spiritual baptism, however, is different than when Jesus lived on the earth. Read in Acts about the day of Pentecost.

2007-11-20 03:32:37 · answer #4 · answered by Scooterette1! 4 · 0 0

Jesus baptism was unique.

Jesus was baptized as an example for us.

Baptism should be done today the same was it was during the first century, by immersion and only after someone has decided to become a disciple of Jesus.

Pastor Art

2007-11-20 03:42:39 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Most Christians believe it was symbolic. Afterall, his crazy cousin John the Baptist, wasn't perfect.

It was a representation of the Holy Spirit being imparted on believers, the early Christians believed that they needed this baptism of the spirit before they could perform miracles. Which is why Jesus gets baptized prior to becoming a wine maker.

2007-11-20 03:33:01 · answer #6 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 0 0

Baptism is symbolic. It's all symbolism. Like communion. Like the eucharist. Like the curcifixation Christians have with the cross: it's a symbol. Nothing more. All baptism does for you is get you wet, either totally immersed or you get little wet droplets poured over your head.

2007-11-20 03:32:47 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

1) Sort of.......baptism represents the giving of ourselves over to the will of God. For us, it represents the death, burial & resurrection of Christ. For them, it was simply obedience to the Lord.
2) Christ showed His manhood by doing this......in humility to the Father. But this in no way took away from the fact that He was still God incarnate.

2007-11-20 03:34:14 · answer #8 · answered by primoa1970 7 · 0 0

He did that as anexample.. no He could also do that...and then He sent the spirit to do it after he ascended for new believers,

2007-11-20 03:31:42 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus’ Baptism in Water. The baptism of Jesus himself as performed by John must of necessity have had a meaning and purpose quite different from John’s baptism, as Jesus “committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth.” (1Pe 2:22) So he could not submit to an act symbolizing repentance. Undoubtedly it was for this reason that John objected to baptizing Jesus. But Jesus said: “Let it be, this time, for in that way it is suitable for us to carry out all that is righteous.”—Mt 3:13-15. Luke states that Jesus was praying at the time of his baptism. (Lu 3:21) Further, the writer of the letter to the Hebrews says that when Jesus Christ came “into the world” (that is, not when he was born and could not read and say these words, but when he presented himself for baptism and began his ministry) he was saying, in accord with Psalm 40:6-8 (LXX): “Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me. . . . Look! I am come (in the roll of the book it is written about me) to do your will, O God.” (Heb 10:5-9) Jesus was by birth a member of the Jewish nation, which nation was in a national covenant with God, namely, the Law covenant. (Ex 19:5-8; Ga 4:4) Jesus, by reason of this fact, was therefore already in a covenant relationship with Jehovah God when he thus presented himself to John for baptism. Jesus was there doing something more than what was required of him under the Law. He was presenting himself to his Father Jehovah to do his Father’s “will” with reference to the offering of his own “prepared” body and with regard to doing away with animal sacrifices that were offered according to the Law. The apostle Paul comments: “By the said ‘will’ we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all time.” (Heb 10:10) The Father’s will for Jesus also involved activity in connection with the Kingdom, and for this service too Jesus presented himself. (Lu 4:43; 17:20, 21) Jehovah accepted and acknowledged this presentation of his Son, anointing him with holy spirit and saying: “You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.”—Mr 1:9-11; Lu 3:21-23; Mt 3:13-17.

Water Baptism of Jesus’ Followers. John’s baptism was due to be replaced by the baptism commanded by Jesus: “Make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit.” (Mt 28:19) This was the only water baptism having God’s approval from Pentecost, 33 C.E., forward. Some years after 33 C.E., Apollos, a zealous man, was teaching correctly about Jesus, but he had an understanding of only John’s baptism. On this matter he had to be corrected, as did the disciples whom Paul met at Ephesus. These men in Ephesus had undergone John’s baptism, but evidently after its valid performance had ended, since Paul’s visit to Ephesus was about 20 years after the termination of the Law covenant. They were then baptized correctly in the name of Jesus and received holy spirit.—Ac 18:24-26; 19:1-7. That Christian baptism required an understanding of God’s Word and an intelligent decision to present oneself to do the revealed will of God was evident when, at Pentecost, 33 C.E., the Jews and proselytes there assembled, who already had a knowledge of the Hebrew Scriptures, heard Peter speak about Jesus the Messiah, with the result that 3,000 “embraced his word heartily” and “were baptized.” (Ac 2:41; 3:19–4:4; 10:34-38) Those in Samaria first believed Philip’s preaching of the good news, and then they were baptized. (Ac 8:12) The Ethiopian eunuch, a devout Jewish proselyte who, as such, also had knowledge of Jehovah and the Hebrew Scriptures, heard first the explanation of the fulfillment of these scriptures in Christ, accepted it, and then wanted to be baptized. (Ac 8:34-36) Peter explained to Cornelius that “the man that fears [God] and works righteousness is acceptable” (Ac 10:35) and that everyone putting faith in Jesus Christ gets forgiveness of sins through his name. (Ac 10:43; 11:18) All of this is in harmony with Jesus’ command to “make disciples . . . teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.” Those who accept the teaching and who become disciples properly get baptized.—Mt 28:19, 20; Ac 1:8.

At Pentecost, Jews who bore community responsibility for Jesus’ death, and who doubtless knew of John’s baptism, were “stabbed to the heart” by Peter’s preaching and asked: “Brothers, what shall we do?” Peter answered: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit.” (Ac 2:37, 38) Notice that Peter pointed out something new to them—that, not repentance and baptism in John’s baptism, but repentance and baptism in the name of Jesus Christ was necessary for forgiveness of sins. He did not say that baptism itself washed away sins. Peter knew that “the blood of Jesus [God’s] Son cleanses us from all sin.” (1Jo 1:7) Later, after speaking of Jesus as “the Chief Agent of life,” Peter said to Jews at the temple: “Repent, therefore, and turn around so as to get your sins blotted out, that seasons of refreshing may come from the person of Jehovah.” (Ac 3:15, 19) Here he instructed them that repenting of their bad deed against Christ and ‘turning around,’ to recognize him, was what brought forgiveness of sin; he did not at this point mention baptism. As for the Jews, the Law covenant was abolished on the basis of Christ’s death on the torture stake (Col 2:14), and the new covenant became operative at Pentecost, 33 C.E. (Compare Ac 2:4; Heb 2:3, 4.) Nevertheless, God extended special favor to the Jews about three and a half years longer. During this time Jesus’ disciples confined their preaching to Jews, Jewish proselytes, and Samaritans. But about 36 C.E. God directed Peter to go to the home of the Gentile Cornelius, a Roman army officer, and by pouring out His holy spirit on Cornelius and his household, showed Peter that Gentiles could now be accepted for water baptism. (Ac 10:34, 35, 44-48) Since God no longer recognized the Law covenant with the circumcised Jews but now recognized only his new covenant mediated by Jesus Christ, natural Jews, whether circumcised or uncircumcised, were not considered by God as being in any special relationship with him. They could not attain to a status with God by observing the Law, which was no longer valid, nor by John’s baptism, which had to do with the Law, but were obliged to approach God through faith in his Son and be baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ in order to have Jehovah’s recognition and favor.

Consequently, after 36 C.E., all, Jews and Gentiles, have had the same standing in God’s eyes. (Ro 11:30-32; 14:12) The people of the Gentile nations, except for those who had been circumcised Jewish proselytes, were not in the Law covenant and had never been a people having a special relationship with God the Father. Now the opportunity was extended to them as individuals to become God’s people. Before they could be baptized in water they, therefore, had to come to God as believers in his Son Jesus Christ. Then, according to Christ’s example and command, they would properly submit to water baptism.—Mt 3:13-15; 28:18-20. Such Christian baptism would have a vital effect on their standing before God. After referring to Noah’s constructing of the ark in which he and his family were preserved through the Flood, the apostle Peter wrote: “That which corresponds to this is also now saving you, namely, baptism, (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the request made to God for a good conscience,) through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” (1Pe 3:20, 21) The ark was tangible evidence that Noah had dedicated himself to do God’s will and had then faithfully done the work assigned by God. This led to his preservation. In a corresponding way, those who would dedicate themselves to Jehovah on the basis of faith in the resurrected Christ, get baptized in symbol of that, and do God’s will for his servants would be saved from the present wicked world. (Ga 1:3, 4) No longer would they be headed for destruction with the rest of the world. They would be saved from this and would be granted a good conscience by God.

SYMBOL OF DEDICATION

The Son of God went to John the Baptist and, to John’s surprise, asked to be baptized. John did not understand why Jesus should be baptized and said: “I am the one needing to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?” (Matt. 3:14) Jesus stood firm in his request and John obeyed, dipping Jesus under the water as he had been dipping others. Jesus was not merely sprinkled but was down in the water: “Jesus immediately came up from the water.”—Matt. 3:16. Why did Jesus get baptized? It could not have been for the removal of sins or for a sign that he had repented of sins, because he was “guileless, undefiled, separated from the sinners.” And “he committed no sin, nor was deceit found in his mouth.” A perfect man—yet Jesus was baptized!—Heb. 7:26; 1 Pet. 2:22.

The sinless man Jesus got baptized because of his desire to do his Father’s will. Explaining this, the apostle Paul applies Psalm 40:6-8 to Jesus Christ: “Look! I am come (in the roll of the book it is written about me) to do your will, O God.” (Heb. 10:4-7) Jesus was baptized because he wanted to symbolize his dedication to do Jehovah’s will; and he proved that he had made this dedication by turning his back on carpenter work and beginning the ministry. Jesus made this dedication as a full-grown man: “Jesus also was baptized. . . . Furthermore, Jesus himself, when he commenced his work, was about thirty years old.”—Luke 3:21, 23. Christian baptism today should be performed in imitation of the example that Jesus Christ set. Thus the significance of Jesus’ baptism adheres to the baptism of his followers today. The baptism of a Christian serves as a symbol that one has dedicated his life to God and has vowed, like Jesus: ‘I am come to do your will, O God.’

Those who believe that water baptism washes away sins often quote Acts 2:38 as support. This verse contains the apostle Peter’s words: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins.” Here Peter, at Pentecost, was talking to those who had sinned against Jesus. How could they gain forgiveness? They needed to repent and to accept Jesus and his cleansing blood and show this by getting baptized in Jesus’ name. Not that the baptismal water would itself wash away their sins; if that were the case they would have had to get rebaptized after every new sin. But as Acts 22:16 explains: “Now why are you delaying? Rise, get baptized and wash your sins away by your calling upon his name.” How are sins washed away? Not by the water itself but by “calling upon his name.” So water baptism for Christians is a symbol of having repented of sins and of having accepted Jesus and of having dedicated one’s life to do Jehovah’s will faithfully, as Jesus did.

2007-11-20 04:03:54 · answer #10 · answered by amorromantico02 5 · 0 0

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