Does YOUR deity claim to demonstrate "love" by conceiving a son for the sole purpose of being brutally killed?

Question

This doesn't sound particularly loving to me.


Also, I bet that's an awkward Father's Day conversation.

I don't eat veggies and fries in the same meal. They contradict each other.

Answer 1

What is the "purpose" of the universe?

If the universe's destiny is destruction, followed by rebirth (expanding/contracting theory,) there are some curious parallels to aspects of scripture, albeit metaphoric. In this context, the destiny of the universe - and everything in it - IS destruction, and it won't be pleasant, I bet.

"Love" is a human concept, and therefore is a Red Herring in a discussion about the nature of the universe.

Answer 2

No, my deity does not do that. I'm Christian. It's true, the Son of God in our religion was brutally killed. But that was nowhere near his "sole purpose"; according to John 1:3-4, "All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being. What has come into being in him was life, and the life was the light of all people." Nor is his Incarnation on earth solely for the purpose of his being killed, apparently: John 3:16-17 doesn't mention that aspect. Wouldn't it make more sense to regard the brutal killing of anyone as purposed by the perpetrators?

Answer 3

Agree. It's not very loving proving that Abraham, who sacrificed an animal instead of his son, Isaac, was a more human father than a ruthless Old Testament God who caused the Great Flood or the New Testament God who enjoyed his son, Jesus Christ, being tortured to death on a cross due to a political decision by the local Jerusalem politicians.

Abraham likely held better Father's Day conversations with his son, Isaac.

Answer 4

Where you have it all wrong is that Jesus was a creation. He was there from the beginning. Eternal with no start. He was not a creation. Firstborn is a sign of imminence, not meaning a birthing process. Once you get past Jehovah Witness theology and understand the Triune God, your original statement becomes even farther off base.

Answer 5

Thank you for asking. This is something I have truly pondered from time to time. If I were inclined toward any deity, it would be "the Goddess," as she generally has a lot more love and respect for her children. -zee

Answer 6

He didn't "conceive" He became ..
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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Answer 7

Since I don't have a deity, NO. But I would like to hear that fathers day conversation, it would be huge on youtube.

Answer 8

Well, the general premise of your question is incorrect, with all due respect.

God did not conceive/create a son for the sole purpose of being brutally killed. Jesus Christ was the firstborn of all creation. He was created before everything and everyONE. Jesus was not given his mission of self-sacrifice until AFTER the human creation made it necessary. Before that Jesus had lived for until eons alongside his Father.

Answer 9

While such a thought can impress your firnds at parties, if Jesus and God are the same person ("I and the Father are One") and God is eternal then your metaphor to human father and son and death and suffering being the ultimate bad things breaks down out of the gate.

Answer 10

Thankfully no.My deity is easily refundable.