According to the Talmud Jmmanuel material, which is supposedly the most accurate gospel version,
containing Jesus original teachings, etc etc.
All the things he does until the crucifixion remains generally intact --- it is only that the resurrection did not take place, but that Jesus survived (but was near death, taken for to be dead, to be taken away and resucitated) - escaped to India, settling in Kashmir, where he spent the greater part of his life, and died there.
See www.tombofjesus.com
Note - that Mary, his mother accompanied him - but being old and fragile did not survive the difficult journey. She was buried where she died - there is a tomb of Mary.
See Ed T Martin's book "King of Travelers - Jesus Lost Years in India"...
There is historical evidence for this version of events.
Judas the apostle - did not betray Jesus - that was another man also named Judas, the son of a high priest.
Also note - Jesus did not teach about worshipping God...
2007-11-19 20:12:14
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answered by TruthBox 5
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A lot of it.
Although I have a rough idea of what you mean, I do not know what EXACTLY you have in mind, so why don't you compare that with what TRUE Christian belief is according to the Bible?
1. The true religion worships the only true God, Jehovah.
(Deuteronomy 6:4, 5; Psalm 146:5-10; Matthew 22:37, 38.)
2. The true religion offers access to God by means of Christ Jesus.
(John 17:3, 6-8; 1 Timothy 2:5, 6; 1 John 4:15.)
3. The true religion teaches and practices unselfish love.
(John 13:34, 35; 1 Corinthians 13:1-8; 1 John 3:10-12.)
4. The true religion remains untainted by worldly politics and conflicts. It is neutral in time of war.
(John 18:36; James 1:27.)
5. The true religion lets God be true by accepting the Bible as God’s Word.
(Romans 3:3, 4; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13.)
6. The true religion does not condone war or personal violence.
(Micah 4:2-4; Romans 12:17-21; Colossians 3:12-14.)
7. The true religion successfully unites people of every race, language, and tribe. It does not preach nationalism or hatred, but love.
(Isaiah 2:2-4; Colossians 3:10, 11; Revelation 7:9, 10.)
8. The true religion advocates serving God, not for selfish gain or a salary, but out of love. It does not glorify men. It glorifies God.
(1Â Peter 5:1-4; 1Â Corinthians 9:18; Matthew 23:5-12.)
9. The true religion proclaims the Kingdom of God as man’s sure hope, not some political or social philosophy.
(Mark 13:10; Acts 8:12; 28:23, 30, 31.)
10. The true religion teaches the truth regarding God’s purpose for man and the earth. It does not teach the religious lies of immortal soul and eternal torment in hell. It teaches that God is love.
(Judges 16:30; Isaiah 45:12, 18; Matthew 5:5; 1 John 4:7-11; Revelation 20:13, 14.)
2007-11-19 19:55:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Since to me the true definition of 'traditional Christian belief' is 'belief and obedience to the Bible', then none of traditional Christian beliefs is wrong, nor ever will be.
2007-11-19 19:56:17
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answered by Anonymous
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That depends on what you mean by "traditional Christian belief".
2007-11-19 19:49:21
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answered by Dysthymia 6
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Depends on the tradition, I suppose...some Christians believe that sprinkling is an acceptable form of baptism, some say only immersion is...I mean, ONE of 'em's wrong...
2007-11-19 19:51:22
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answered by Tut Uncommon 7
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The biggest lie in Christian belief is Original Sin. Many other lies are built upon it.
Ten FACTS that Debunk the Abrahamic Religions
Fact #1:
Men, everywhere on the planet, have created countless gods from time, immemorial.
Fact #2:
No two gods are exactly the same.
Fact #3:
Most gods are dead or dying and their religions are now ancient myths – despite being dominant for hundreds and even thousands of years. The first truly great monotheistic religion, Zoroastrianism, is a millennia older than Judaism and is STILL practiced by a million adherents.
Fact #4:
Scripture was edited and nurtured over the course of hundreds of years. That's not divine inspiration.
Fact #5:
Christianity is a selective copy of previous religions: notably ancient Egyptian, Babylonian and Persian. The story of Jesus unabashedly plagiarizes the stories of Horus, Ahura Mazda and Mithras. The savior theme and the miracles of Jesus' story is a common spiritual model replicated by many religions BEFORE Christianity.
Fact #6:
Abrahamic religions deal in the supernatural (i.e. things that are physically impossible in the natural world). Faith in the supernatural requires suspension of disbelief (i.e. the believer must convince himself that the impossible is possible).
Fact #7:
The 4 gospels of the New Testament are attributed to 4 of Jesus’ disciples: but “Matthew”, “Mark”, “Luke” and “John” are pseudonyms used by anonymous authors, from the Roman Empire, who wrote these gospels (in Greek) long after ALL the disciples were dead.
Fact #8:
The chroniclers and historians of Jesus’ era and region somehow managed not to notice the fantastic achievements and stories of the legendary Jesus or his hordes of followers – despite writing about many other, less note-worthy, contemporaries of Jesus.
Fact #9:
The legacy of the Abrahamic religions is one of intolerance, corruption, schisms, inquisitions, crusades, enmity, war and hatred, that (mostly) continues to this very day.
Fact #10:
Mankind has benefited and advanced through intellectual achievements – not spiritual ones (if there are any). The intellectual discipline of science has never sparked a war or burned a heretic. The world’s charities are non-profit, while the Catholic church is the richest institution of any kind, by far, in the world.
To Fundamentalist Christians:
These 10 facts are clear and convincing evidence that ALL religions and gods are man-made. Those who deny this evidence are placed in the untenable position of asserting that their particular God and religion is an exception. Maintaining the falsity of the thousands of other religions, while claiming your own is real and true, is transparently ridiculous.
The scientific rigor of proof is exceptionally stringent. Science regards evolution as a proven fact. One can assert that God layered all that fossil evidence in the earth – in just the right sequence – to fool us for some reason: but that assertion has no evidence and can be ruled out without fear of equivocation. In the same way, the assertion that one particular God is real when we know the others are man-made is so unlikely as to be entirely discounted in the absence of some sort of evidence.
If you’re a confirmed, devout, Fundamentalist Christian, I know you will continue to deny. Denial is your stock in trade. So let me try to approach this from your point of view (if I can presume to do so).
You love and believe in God and Jesus and the Bible because you think they’re good, loving, holy and, most importantly, true. You see no contradiction in Original Sin, genocide, war or murder as long as it’s sanctioned by your good, loving, holy and truthful God.
If the Bible says it, you believe it. If the Bible says you’re born an unworthy sinner, then you were born an unworthy sinner. If the Bible says Jesus died for your sins, it doesn’t matter that God is the one who imputed Original Sin upon you to begin with. If God says you’ll rot in hell if you don’t believe in him, then you’ll just have to believe in him . . . you’ll find some way to avoid doubt – some way to sublimate your thoughts: after all, hell sounds like a very nasty place.
Sublimating your thoughts IS essential . . . isn’t it? You’re guilty of adultery or fornication if you lust in your heart. Have you ever lusted? Have you ever sinned? Do you still sin? Then you CAN’T control your thoughts, can you? Of course not. You’re not perfect. You’re human. Because you believe every word of the Bible, you will always feel guilty – because you’re human. How crazy is that? Your religion puts you at odds with yourself. You must spend you life in denial of YOURSELF. No wonder you’re so good at this denial thing. You’ve got it down pat.
2007-11-19 19:53:50
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answered by Seeker 6
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It varies from group to group. The Catholics are WAY off. The Jehovah's Witnesses, not so much.
Personally, I'm a Pagan, so I think it's all a moot point - those scriptures only apply to Jews.
2007-11-19 20:01:02
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answered by Morgaine 4
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tradition is the wrong way to seek God we must seek him from our heart
2007-11-19 19:54:53
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answered by Mim 7
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All of it. There is only one true God and His name is Flying Spaghetti Monster. Receive Him and let His noodley appendage touch your heart and soul.
2007-11-19 19:50:41
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answered by Anonymous
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85%
2007-11-19 19:49:11
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answered by eelai000 5
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