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Paul’s influence on Christianity has been a big one perhaps even more then Jesus (Pbuh).
Paul said that you cannot be justified by the law of Moses:
"Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that BELIEVE are JUSTIFIED from all things, from which ye COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES." [Acts 13:38-39]
Here Paul tells the Christians that they cannot be justified by the law of Moses let us see what the master says
"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF THOU WILT ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS." [Matthew 19:16 1)

2007-11-19 16:58:26 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Jesus Christ is a good guy, and Saint Paul smells alot like that sewage waste plant often, so , i dont know

2007-11-19 17:02:06 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Two things worth noting here:
You have to take the audience into account. Jesus is speaking to Jews. In other words, God's chosen who are under the law. Paul, however, is speaking to Gentiles. Those who have not historically been under the law.

But more important than that is the fact that you've taken the Matthew 19 verse out of context. Jesus is setting the rich young ruler up to make the exact same point that Paul makes in Acts: that the Law alone (and adherence to it) cannot provide justification. In verse 20, after Jesus has listed the commandments, the rich young ruler replies, "All these I have kept. What do I still lack?"Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

So you see, Jesus and Paul were saying basically the same thing: the Law, while it does a great job of showing you how far removed you are from God in your sin, cannot justify. It cannot reconcile you. Only God -- and specifically the sacrifice of His Son on the cross and subsequent resurrection -- can do that.

2007-11-19 17:11:58 · answer #2 · answered by RolandSonOfStephen 2 · 1 1

Paul the apostle taught that Jesus is the Christ, and our Savior. This passage where Paul said you cannot be justified by the law of Moses, means that you can't be justified by the sacrificial system anymore. It used to be they could sacrifice a lamb or a goat or doves, or a burnt offering of some sort...for sins; but after Jesus was crucified for our sins, that was IT.."the final sacrifice", the "only" sacrifice that will save you, and "only" if you believe and confess with your mouth that you believe, and that he is risen, and he is our Savior. We are saved by the blood of the Lamb. The sacrificial Lamb of GOD.

So what Paul was teaching was correct, and it was the same as Jesus was teaching all along, in his parables...some people didn't understand them. Paul was trying to help clarify the teachings of Jesus. He was explaining that Moses teachings were a precurser to Jesus being our Savior.Everything in the old testiment pointed to and fortold of Jesus. And yes, Jesus taught to keep the commandments; all of them, not just nine, or as many as are convenient for your lifestyle...all ten.
And just as Paul wrote..............Through this Man is [preached unto you] the forgiveness of sins. amen
I don't quite see your point, Paul's meaning is clear as day. He is talking about Jesus being the "only way" of salvation. So what is your question or dilema?

2007-11-19 17:34:41 · answer #3 · answered by Dols 2 · 1 0

there have been initially twelve Apostles, certainly one of which betrayed God, Judas Iscariot. After Judas fell, the 11 chosen Matthias to take Judas' place. Then between Paul's 2nd and third journeys he grew to develop into an Apostle. So in the Bible there are 13 Apostles. A disciple is all people would believes in God the father, Son the Son and the Holy Spirit. A saint in Christianity is any specific person who has been talked approximately as to holiness by utilising God. A ordained individual is somebody with sufficient preparation and faith that a definite denomination selects to coach and lead religious ceremonies. With that stated, are you able to tell me who the elect are? and how they're chosen? Godspeed.

2016-10-02 01:46:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Acts 13:38 ACTUALLY reads, "You must know, my brothers, that through Him forgiveness of sins is being proclaimed to you, in regard to everything from which you could not be justified under the law of Moses."
Jesus brought us REDEMPTION which was not there before his coming. St. Paul is trying to teach that in the synagoge where he was speaking.
There is no contradiction. Jesus Himself said that He had not come to destroy the old, but to fulfill it!
In the second quotation(Matthew 19:16) He is speaking to a young rich man who is asking what he must do to have salvation. Eventually Jesus tells him to go and sell all he has, give the money to the poor and to follow him. The rich young man cannot (will not) do this.The end is where Jesus proclaims that it is easier to pass a camel through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. You need to understand the complete context of these passages as taking them out of context confuses the issue. Do you know what the eye of the needle is? It is NOT a literal eye of a needle. Research a bit you will learn much.

2007-11-19 17:19:53 · answer #5 · answered by keydoto 3 · 1 1

Matthew 19, Jesus is talking about a rich man and what he has to give up.
Jesus Christ said: "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Jesus Christ didn't change the Law of Moses, but fulfilled them.
Paul was convicted by Jesus Christ for persecuting Christians. From that moment on, Paul did the work of Jesus.

2007-11-19 17:15:58 · answer #6 · answered by tracy211968 6 · 0 1

It is refreshing to see so many answers to this perceptive question which address the issue without presenting one view as the only way of looking at things.

The question of how the Law relates to the (then new) faith in Jesus is one which Paul was supremely well placed to address, as he was an expert in it. Probably the best account is in his letter to the Galatian church, as they were plagued by 'Judaisers' who insisted that the law applied in all its detail to Christians.

The argument is quite detailed, and theological, but Paul starts not with Moses, but Abraham. A relatively simple version goes like this.

1. God's promise to Abraham was broadly in 2 parts. First that he would be the father of a great nation - which has been fulfilled. Secondly that all the nations on earth would be blessed through him - which does not have any obvious fulfillment.

2. Abraham believed God, and that belief was 'counted as righteousness'. This is central to Paul's thinking.

3. Centuries later, the Law was given to Moses. If the people of Israel kept the Law then God would bless them.

4. Coming to Paul's time, he makes much of the promise to Abraham, which he points out is still in force as God's promises do not expire just because they were made a long time ago. That is, the blessings come through belief, not obedience to the Law.

5. So why was the Law given at all? His answer is as simple as it is tough. It was given to show that it is not possible to keep the Law. In principle, we can 'get to heaven' by keeping the Law, but that means keeping ALL of it, not just most of it. The point of Jesus' comments was not that we should all keep the Law, but that we can't. Read on, and he shows the young man that by putting his personal wealth above his duty to love his neighbour he was breaking the second most important commandment - the first being to love God.

6. Paul then goes on to point out that
a) since keeping the Law is not possible, and
b) the promise to Abraham is still in force, and
c) Jesus on the Cross paid the price of failing to keep the Law [there is deep theology here, which needs many many books to explore in detail!] which is spiritual death and separation from God ('My God, why have you forsaken me' : one of the sayings on the Cross) then
d) the promise to Abraham, which was through BELIEF rather than OBEDIENCE is at last fulfilled, and the blessing God gave to him is now available through faith to everyone.

Obviously such a big issue can't properly be explored in a few lines on the internet, but have a look at the letter to the Galatians, and other places, such as the letter of James who basically says the same as Paul. James of course was probably the brother (or half brother?!) of Jesus and we may assume he knew him.

2007-11-19 21:07:48 · answer #7 · answered by za 7 · 1 0

The words spoken by Jesus in Matthew 19:16-17 were before He died on the cross. On the other hand, the words spoken by the apostle Paul were after Jesus rose from the dead.

Before Jesus died for the forgiveness of sins and rose again from the dead because of our justification, everyone, including the Jews, were living under the dispensation of law. So, when the rich young ruler came to Jesus, wanting to be justified by the law, Jesus was saying to him in effect: "If you want to be justified by the law and have eternal life, the only way is to keep all the ten commandments." The young man boasted (in a way) that he kept all the commandments. Jesus then pointed out, "One thing you lack. If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven, and come and follow Me."

The young man went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. Jesus had indirectly showed the man failed to keep the first commandment "You shall have no other gods before Me", for to the young man, money was his god. The possessions "had" him, instead of he had the possessions. It goes to show that the law is not meant to justify man, but rather show up man's sinfulness.

Similarly, Jesus said in another place, "If your right eye offends you, pluck it out and throw it away. If your right hand offends you, cut it off and throw it away." If we insist on going by everything Jesus said, are we going to do that also? So, we need to find out to whom Jesus was speaking, and under what circumstances, in order to understand His intentions.

As for Paul's words in Acts 13:38-39, he was preaching the forgiveness of sins and justification by faith through Jesus Christ, not by works of the law. Paul was preaching this after he had received a direct command from the Lord Jesus to preach the gospel (as described in Acts chapters 9 and 25). The gospel began after Jesus died and rose again and ascended to His Father, so we are all now living under the dispensation of grace.

Paul wrote in Galatians 1:11-12 that he did not receive the gospel from man, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. In other words, Paul's teaching came from the ascended Jesus Christ Himself - the same Jesus who spoke to the rich young ruler while He was still living on earth.

Once we understand the difference between the dispensation of law and the dispensation of grace, it will open our eyes to see the wonderful truth and beauty of the gospel of grace of Jesus Christ. Hope you are blessed.

2007-11-19 17:42:50 · answer #8 · answered by Music and dancing 6 · 0 0

Paul ruined the teachings of Jesus. He directly contradicts him by saying that Jesus's blessings include Gentiles, too. Jesus specified "I am not sent but unto the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel." He only intended to reach the Jews.

Also, Jesus was concerned with tolerance and charity - Paul hated women and sex to the point that he questioned whether a real Christian could even be married. Most of the current misogyny in the church can be traced directly to Paul. Notice that when people wanted to do honor killings, Jesus would intervene on behalf of the women. Paul would be the first one to throw a stone in a case like that.

When people start talking about Paul being an apostle, they are deceiving you - Paul appointed himself an apostle and he never knew Jesus while he lived. He had no more authority to speak for Jesus than anyone else.

2007-11-19 17:09:02 · answer #9 · answered by Morgaine 4 · 3 4

Jesus taught Jews to be better Jews and Paul taught everyone how to be a Christian. That was a simple question. Jesus lived and died a Jew. Paul was born a Jew and died a Christian.

2007-11-19 17:07:10 · answer #10 · answered by mesquiteskeetr 6 · 1 0

If you believe the Bible to be the truth then Paul was an apostle and prophet of God and his teachings are correct and should be consistent with that of Christ.

2007-11-19 17:01:18 · answer #11 · answered by cadisneygirl 7 · 2 1

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