If you can prove global warming is real?

Question

Why not run a computer model and tell us what the climate is going to be next month and prove all these "skeptics" wrong?

Then tell us what the climate will be three months from now, six months and a year from now. Once you show then that climate increases with co2, and co2 is increasing, so temps will be considerably warmer, you'll shut these pesky neo-cons up for good.

Should be a simple task, after all the computer models are very accurate and we have a very good understanding of the climate.

Bob - Just tell us if Europe will be warmer or colder next month. And if North and South America will be warmer or colder. Or Asia.

I'm not asking about if it will rain or not, just if it will be warmer or not.

As you can see by this chart from NASA, there is no pattern in warming, and current times aren't any warmer than the past.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.D.txt

I don't think you can do it, because global warming doesn't exist.

It's just a scam to make people pay more for energy.

Answer 1

They will never do it jello even if they could. Future predictions of warming would prove them wrong and they just can't have that. They use temperature charts starting at the end of the Mini ice age and continuing to the present to prove global warming. They then project this warming trend into the future to "prove" it will get even hotter. If only we had temp charts of the 150 years proceeding the mini ice age then we could project them into the future, that would "prove" global cooling and an imminent ice age. Just think of all the money we could raise to fight this imminent crisis.

Answer 2

The world goes through natural climate changes all the time. It just happens to be that we started keeping weather records of the planet during the 1850's and further during a colder time period. so from there it seems like we have warmed a lot more and are going no where but in to danger zone from there. Climatologists were able to look at core ice samples from all over the world in various arctic locations and the data shows that this is true. the globe naturally goes in and out of warm and cold trends. weather records started during a mini ice age period, so that data may be mis leading. In the 70's people thought the world was cooling and some activists proposed people put more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to balance this out. that was just 30-40 years ago. It is still very possible that the added carbon dioxide from fossile fuel use and other factors are contributing to the warming trend. An extremely misleading assumption people use is that when the cardon dioxide in the atmosphere goes up, then the temperatures will increase. This is ENTIRELY FALSE. The opposite is happening and as the temperature goes up, carbon dioxide increases. Data from peaks and valleys of average temperatures over many areas of the planet prove this and show that the temperatures go up FIRST and then the increased carbon dioxide FOLLOWS. This doesnt mean that this is all natural warming. meteorology is a study that is very new compaired to many other scientific fields and data should be gathered carefully when making controversial statements based on data that may not be fully understood.

Answer 3

I feel adequate individuals have given solutions you'll be able to get information from however simply 2 facets: @Hanna: Global warming is a conception. Its a systematic conception approximately local weather. Most individuals with ease do not comprehend the which means of the phrase conception or the truth you wish to have proof to help a conception no longer simply conjecture (there may be lots of proof aiding AGW conception). Not pronouncing your feedback are unsuitable even though. @Steven:"OMG!!! I learn one of the crucial solutions you obtained.. Look I reside in West Virginia And a couple of years in the past we had essentially the most snow and coldest temps ever.. the final three years we've got had horrible winters.. Global warming?? The earth has traditional cycles, each stone a long time and ice a long time.. Now a few will say a ice age is side of international warming, No it's not, you cant have it each methods, the planet is cooling or its warming.. I take into account a couple of years again probably 6 or 10 years in the past no longer certain, the international warming crowd used to be going to have there annual convention and so they obtained Snowed out..... LOL LOL" The climate in which you reside does no longer same international local weather. The factor approximately international local weather difference is the phrase... Global. Also Global warming does no longer imply that all over the place will get warmer all the time it signifies that the international ordinary temperature is emerging and that is affecting the elements and local weather in locations. Being snowed out of the once a year convention make no differene to international warming. If you're going to check out and be wise for your reply no less than attempt to seem into the technology.

Answer 4

This question shows a lack of understanding of the meanings of "weather" and "climate". Predicting short term weather and predicting long term climate are two very different things.

This graph of global temperature shows it clearly. Year to year the weather jumps around a lot but the long term average climate is quite predictable. This is a common situation in science. Short term data is very "noisy", and the long term average is not.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

What will happen next year? Nobody knows. But what is certain is that, in five years, the five year rolling average temperature will be higher, by about 0.1 degree.

This is exactly why so many "skeptics" are meteorologists, rather than climatologists. They've spent all their working lives dealing with short term weather, and don't understand that long term climate is completely different. So they don't understand that it's been proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that global warming is both real and mostly caused by us.

Nearly every world leader and corporate leader does understand that fact. As do most lay people:

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/412.php?lb=hmpg1&pnt=412&nid=&id=

Good websites for more info:

http://profend.com/global-warming/
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/
http://www.realclimate.org
"climate science from climate scientists"

Answer 5

Sorry, we do not have a great understanding of the atmosphere. But here is what we know: Blacktop (roads and parking lots) and buildings heat cities; Air pollution causes lung (and other) diseases, deforestation causing more destruction (duststorms, hurricanes/cyclones all increasing deforestation) and destroys the ozone layer while heating earth surface; fires cause mud slides, deforestation and pollution-more heating surface temperatures; CFC's destroy the ozone layer raising skin cancer rates and killing off endanger species and increased surface temperatures; lighting produces ozone near the surface and raises air pollution levels-more heating; the suns increased magnetic field are causing increases in earthquakes (more destruction), volcanoes (wow, great distruction), sun spots and leading to more heating. Cars, airplanes, ships and most electricity production causes pollution, warmer temperatures and destruction. But most of this is in our control outside of the sun (Volcanoes, sun spots and earthquakes are part of the sun magnetic strength): We need to fix our part! That is why I founded CoolingEarth.org an geoengineering web sight.The USA Mayor's are on the right track, we can have control and economic growth. The fed gov is way out of step-even Congress. We also need a pollution surcharge to balance the field and advance new technologies. Where we are with global warming has never happened before. CO2 has never lead to temperature change, but temperature change has led to increases in CO2. The models are having to be made with little evidence!

Answer 6

We don't have a good understanding of the weather, and computer models are not accurate. There are thousands if not millions of variables (not just one - CO2), and there is not enough computer power with all the computers in the world combined to accurately predict the weather. We cannot prove global warming is real. I think you're being a little naive, if not downright dellusional.

Answer 7

Can you prove it is not? No. Is there evidence it is occurring? Yes. Is it silly to ASSUME it is not when there is evidence that it is? Yes. I pasted the IPCC summary for policymakers - just the first few under the first point below. I also pasted the link in case you want to be educated.

1. Observed changes in climate and their effects
Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global average sea level
(Figure SPM.1). {1.1}

Eleven of the last twelve years (1995-2006) rank among the twelve warmest years in the instrumental record of global surface temperature (since 1850). The 100-year linear trend (1906-2005) of 0.74 [0.56 to 0.92]°C 1 is larger than the corresponding trend of 0.6 [0.4 to 0.8]◦C (1901-2000) given in the Third Assessment Report (TAR) (Figure SPM.1). The temperature increase is widespread over the globe, and is greater at higher northern latitudes. Land regions have warmed faster than the oceans (Figures SPM.2, SPM.4). {1.1, 1.2}

Rising sea level is consistent with warming (Figure SPM.1). Global average sea level has risen since 1961 at an average rate of 1.8 [1.3 to 2.3]mm/yr and since 1993 at 3.1 [2.4 to 3.8]mm/yr, with contributions from thermal expansion, melting glaciers and ice caps, and the polar ice sheets. Whether the faster rate for 1993 to 2003 reflects decadal variation or an increase in the longer-term trend is unclear. {1.1}

Observed decreases in snow and ice extent are also consistent with warming (Figure SPM.1). Satellite data since
1978 show that annual average Arctic sea ice extent has shrunk by 2.7 [2.1 to 3.3]% per decade, with larger decreases in summer of 7.4 [5.0 to 9.8]% per decade. Mountain glaciers and snow cover on average have declined
in both hemispheres. {1.1}


It get into a lot more stuff and give certainty levels. Some have relatively low certainty but many have extremely high certainty.

Answer 8

The smaller the time scale involved the more difficult it is to make an accurate prediction. I'm not an expert, but I'd be willing to bet it isn't possible to accurately predict the climate in such a short term.

There have been many accurate predictions made about future and past climates over longer timescales however. In fact, it is partly the ability of climate models to produce such an accurate picture of past climates that give scientists such confidence in them.

Clicky the link below for more info:

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html

The relevant portion is the FAQ section 8.1.

Answer 9

Global warming is real. It has been proven via data collected over the past century and a half. The average mean temperature of the earth is increasing. No one with half a brain disputes that.

The dispute is weather this is a natural phenomenon or if it is man made. At present there is not enough information to prove it, either way.

All we have are opinions.

Answer 10

You have it all wrong. Their models do not predict the future, heck no. They wait for the future to become the past, then manipulate the model to generate the past. And what ever comes out next, that is the new future. Until of course, it is once again proven to be completely wrong, so they go back and do it all over.