stems from the organization's power over them?
Here the WT Society quotes a loyal JW as saying"
" I have discovered that there is only one religious organization on earth capable of clearly defining the boundaries or relative freedom. What particularly convinced me during my study with Jehovah's Witnesses is the fact that this organization has the strength to require of its members that they stay within these boundaries" Awake, March 8, 1988, page 19
2007-11-19
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JC: I am not attacking JWs. They are not just used to people questioning their odd doctrines. I am passionate about the doctrinal differences because people do not know what is really going on.
I read all the answers. I recomend that to all JWs too.
2007-11-19
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Because I also wish for you to learn what the Bible really teaches.
2007-11-19
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Yes, but will the MEMBERS recognize this?! That's the real question.
Mormonism is much the same. It's members are strictly controlled, even to what they are allowed to read.
2007-11-19 15:03:25
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answered by Devoted1 7
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Wow, it is truly amazing what can be "proved" by taking things out of context! You obviously didn't read the article.
The "boundaries or relative freedom" he is speaking about are those that God give us. They are found in the Bible. Jehovah's Witnesses live by Bible principles. “Behave like free men, and never use your freedom as an excuse for wickedness.” (1Â Peter 2:16, The Jerusalem Bible) God didn't purpose for humans to have total freedom, but relative freedom. We were created to be in subjection to God’s laws. We are the happier if we stay subject to them. (Isaiah 48:17)
If one of Jehovah's Witnesses chooses to disobey the laws set out in the Bible, they are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. We, as an organization, have the "strength" to remove them from the congregation, unlike other religions who cower and make accommodations for all wrong doing.
2007-11-21 19:14:21
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answered by izofblue37 5
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Our unity comes from having God's holy spirit upon us as a group. The God we serve is not a God of disorder, everywhere you go Jehovah's Witnesses are united spiritually, which you cannot say for any other group.
Ask any Jehovah's Witness a Scriptural question- the answer will be the same even though they may use several verses. Try that with a few people in your church?
Just look at the confusion you guys have- you all can't even explain a basic concept of your belief- the trinity.
The answers all come all mish-mashed and as contradictory as if you've asked a bunch of old ladies what they think the best home-made flu remedy is!!!
Still waiting for my 1x1x1=1 Bible verse, Nina- but I'm not holding my breath!!!
2007-11-20 00:06:30
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answered by Anonymous
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No.
As the questioner herself notes, the quote at issue merely expresses the thoughts of one individual. The quoted individual seems to be saying that the 'Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses' has strength of character, and real convictions.
By contrast, too many churches wanly tolerate almost any degree of hypocrisy and unrepentant sinfulness among their adherents. That would seem to be codependent and enabling, and weak.
Does that seem more likely to serve the interests of God and Christ, or of the sinful?
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/19880415/article_01.htm
2007-11-21 14:11:33
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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Funny to see you still attacking the Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe if you had a little more Bible knowledge, you wouldn't be attacking the Jehovah's Witnesses the way you are.
The organization has no power over its members. Sure, you don't believe in Churches or organizations, and thats why you don't know anything about this. The fact is, its the organization has helped many members for spiritual guidance, and thats what they are most thankful for.
I suggest you talk to one of Jehovah's Witnesses one on one because it seems you need to be informed with what the Bible really teaches.
UPDATE: See, thats why you're so ignorant.. The Watch Tower states in their OWN publications about the doctrine changes. Also, theres many doctrine changes that haven't taken place which opposers claim.
Again, ask a JWs first so you won't stay in ignorance.
UPDATE: We know what the Bible teaches, and we don't follow false doctrines such as you do. I'm always open for a Bible discussion to prove my beliefs and expose yours.. we are fully aware what you believe and what the Bible teaches of it. So the scriptures aren't hidden from us because we know exactly what it says.
2007-11-19 23:11:13
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answered by VMO 4
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I'm putting the article that you quoted to avoid misunderstanding,.
Awake 88 excerpt:
A religion that really represents the one true God must produce people that are like him: loving, joyful, peaceable, long-suffering, kind, good, mild, and possessing self-control. (Galatians 5:22, 23) It must produce people with strong faith who firmly uphold his standards of conduct and morality. “By their fruits you will recognize them,” said Jesus, using the example of a tree. ‘Only those doing the will of God can enter the kingdom of the heavens.’ If a religion produces people who bring forth bad fruitage, what recommends it as being good?—Matthew 7:16-23.
Ask yourself: Most religions teach that it is wrong to kill, but what do their members do in time of war? Most teach that marriage is a sacred institution, but what record do their members have as regards divorce and premarital and extramarital sex?
Words Versus Actions
In 1982 a professor of physics at an Eastern European university said upon becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses: “I have discovered that there is only one religious organization on earth capable of clearly defining the boundaries of relative freedom. What particularly convinced me during my study with Jehovah’s Witnesses is the fact that this organization has the strength to require of its members that they stay within these boundaries.”
Can other religions say as much? For example, during his 1986 Christmas message, Pope John Paul II called for an end to hatred, saying that “love alone can change the face of our planet.” But how successful has the Catholic Church been in accomplishing this within its own ranks? And if all religions are only different avenues leading to “the God of peace,” why is so little peace to be found among their members?—Philippians 4:9.
Did you care to look at w69 – Strengthening ourselves in Jehovah.
Keep in mind, too, that Jehovah’s eyes “are roving about through all the earth to show his STRENGTH IN BEHALF of those whose heart is complete toward him.” (2 Chronicles 16:9) - W91
W96 states “Where did Paul get the strength to care for his spiritual responsibilities? “For all things I have the strength by virtue of him who imparts power to me,” he wrote. (Philippians 4:13) Yes, Jehovah God was the Source of Paul’s strength”
What you don’t understand is that Jehovah God, the MAIN SOURCE OF STRENGTH, SHOWS HIS STRENGTH IN BEHALF of his people, His Organization in Heaven and on earth.
2007-11-20 10:20:26
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answered by trustdell1 3
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Interesting that when you quote Watchtower articles and point out the cult leanings in what THEY say, you are attacking them.
It seems hopeless for the witnesses that are blindly following what they are told to do by their leaders, maybe our ministry is about warning those who are not indoctrinated yet.
P.S. Pedi. stold my answer.
2007-11-20 09:58:57
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answered by Anonymous
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That's the speech the Captain gives just before the rats start leaving the ship.
2007-11-19 23:00:53
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answered by Shinigami 7
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The confused person who said that missed the fact that the Watchtower has that strength due to its cult influence over its members.
2007-11-20 09:51:03
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answered by Danny H 6
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i dont have the book so I dont know what the boundaries are. i dont think it is bad to have boundries though. ps. im not a JW
2007-11-20 09:47:51
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answered by Anonymous
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