watch them squirm thier way out of this one. but im sure they were adequitly trainned to answer this question.
2007-11-19 12:47:25
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answer #1
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answered by ~testube Jebus~ 4
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No, it doesn't contract because if a spirit wants to be seen, he can materialize. How do you think the fallen angels commit fornication with the people on earth - they had to materialize right?
Theres many accounts that shows angels eating and having the appearance of a man, and in this account, it's no different to what Jesus did.
Now look at what the Bible says about Jesus.
1 - He was raised a spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"[; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
1Peter 3:18
For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, HAVING BEEN PUT TO DEATH IN THE FLESH, BUT MADE ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT.
2 - He gave his body for the sacrifice.
Hebrews 10:10
"And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all"
John 6:51
"I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
Question: So what do you think about the scriptures that clearly states he was raised a spirit?
You usually ignore my post after I show you facts, so can you at least comment on the scriptures above?
2007-11-19 22:02:47
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answer #2
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answered by VMO 4
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Ah I take it you are LDS? If not do you think Jesus is up in heaven?man with Scars on his hands and feet? Really?
1 Corinthians 15 flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Jesus also spoke that in heaven you are like angels. He appeared after he died by the way many times. Sometimes they didn't even recognize him. Once he was a gardner...no scars then or wounds..I wonder why? Do ya think it was because he was going to stengthen the faith of his diciples whom he had said would scatter? On his final decesion to heavens he was transformed into the spirit he now is.
Do you remember when Stephen was stoned and he saw the Glory of God and his Son? Both whom are spirit and not flesh.
2007-11-19 21:13:59
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answer #3
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answered by bigislandbatman 3
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The Bible plainly says that Jesus was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit.
Some translations unfortunately mistranslate that verse by saying that Jesus was made alive "by the spirit" instead of "in the spirit."
It should be evident by the context that Peter was contrasting Jesus' fleshly existence with his spirit existence after his resurrection. The verse goes on to say that in that state (in the spirit) Jesus "went his way and preached to the spirits in prison."
Regardless of what you might think the spirits in prison represents, it should be obvious that Jesus had to have been a spirit in order to deliver a message to those spirits.
However, the apostles could not at first comprehend the heavenly, spiritual nature of God's kingdom. They thought in physical terms—as do many would-be Bible interpreters today.
The apostles never would have grasped that Jesus had gone to heaven unless he first materialized before them, cloaking himself in flesh to first convince them he was alive, and then, afterwards, ascending to heaven in their view. However, long after Jesus had returned to heaven he appeared to Paul. In that encounter, Jesus was definitely not human. He was a spirit more glorious in appearance than the sun. In fact, Paul was blinded for three days by the close encounter he had with Christ on the road to Damascus.
Jesus appeared to his disciples on many occasions after his resurrection. In each instance he appeared in a different body that his disciples did not recognize. In each instance, the disciples were called upon to recognize Christ for what he said rather than by his appearance. Jehovah forced them to think in terms of the spirit rather than by fleshly sight.
The only exception was when Jesus appeared on one occasion bearing the marks of his impalement, which was done specifically to confront Thomas, who had previously announced that he would never accept the evidence of Christ's resurrection unless he could personally feel his wounds.
2007-11-20 10:02:55
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answer #4
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answered by keiichi 6
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Even the angels who materialized (both good and bad angels) had flesh and bones...... were they not spirit beings all the same?
When researching these Qs, do you do the reading up yourself, or just pick up things others post on their sites and repeat them as if you thought them up yourself?
2007-11-20 03:38:34
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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HIS POST-RESURRECTION APPEARANCES
What about the bodies in which Jesus appeared after his resurrection? He manifested himself on one occasion in a body that had wounds into which Thomas was able to place his hands to prove that Jesus was the same person, resurrected, whom Thomas had known as the Master. But if Jesus took his human body to heaven to keep these wounds forever, this would be contrary to God’s laws governing fleshly bodies and their ability to repair themselves. Moreover, if Jesus sacrificed his human body for the life of the world and then took it back, retaining it for himself, he could not offer such merit before God in behalf of others. The ransom would be taken back, leaving mankind still in their sins.
So these bodies that Jesus appeared in after his resurrection were materialized bodies. Similar instances occurred in ancient times, such as when the three men visited and ate with Abraham, and those appearing to Lot, in each case being angels who materialized in the form of men. Jesus’ materialized bodies were signs, evidences to eyewitnesses proving he had been resurrected according to the promise of Jehovah God.—Gen. 18:1-22; 19:1-16; John 20:29-31.
The proofs that these were bodies materialized for the occasion are many. Mary, when she first saw Jesus after his resurrection, did not recognize him, thinking that he must be the gardener. On the road to Emmaus, he was recognized by his manners and actions, not by his facial features. (John 20:14-16; Luke 24:13-32; Mark 16:12) When he materialized a body with wound marks to convince the doubtful Thomas, Jesus appeared in a room with locked doors. (John 20:26-28) This shows that he could materialize and dematerialize a body instantaneously. Scientists claim the ability to make material substance out of pure energy. How easy for the power of the resurrected Jesus, then, to materialize a body!
Now about the scripture that says: “While they were speaking of these things he himself stood in their midst and said to them: ‘May you have peace.’ But they were terrified, and because they became frightened they were imagining they beheld a spirit. So he said to them: ‘Why are you troubled, and why is it doubts come up in your hearts? See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have.’” (Luke 24:36-39, NW) Surely, some will contend, this shows that he was not a spirit, but a “spiritualized” fleshly body. No, but these men thought that they saw a vision, or a manifestation to them such as the manifestation of the angel to Daniel, which caused him to fall down with fear.—Dan. 10:4-9.
Since flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, Jesus could not go to heaven with a fleshly body. “Ah,” some will argue, “Jesus did not here say he was flesh and blood, but flesh and bones.” But would it have been reasonable for Jesus to say, ‘See, I am flesh and blood,’ when no blood was running from his body? But it was easily evident to the senses of sight and touch that he had flesh and bones.
So then, those who refuse to recognize the signs of Jesus’ invisible presence because of looking for his coming in a body of flesh are mistaken. So also those who try to worship him today as the baby Jesus, in the face of the evidence that he grew to human manhood, died and was resurrected a mighty spirit person. It is not the baby Jesus that God commanded all to worship, nor the fleshly body, but Christ Jesus the glorified heavenly King of the new world.
2007-11-19 21:31:39
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answer #6
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answered by rangedog 7
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