If the Latin word 'Venerate' means to worship, how is it that Catholics say they do not worship Mary?

Question

The common argument is "we do not worship we venerate".

Venerate is not an English word, it is a transliteration from Latin.

Therefore, to change the definition when the word in transliterated in to English, it is a deception.

Why lie about it. Veneration means to worship. Venerating saints and Mary is idol worship.

If you are so confident in this practice, respect the authority of the Church more than Sola Scripture anyways, and then why not proudly say, "Yes, we worship Mary & the Saints"?

Why are you embarrassed about it to the point that you have to be deceptive?

Pastor Billy - for people like you redefining words knowingly, then writing your own new lexicons to change the meaning seems normal. For people like me it is just another sign as to who your spiritual father is. John 8:44

Synonyms for the word = worship
Use of the word in Translation = worship

[edit] Etymology
From Latin venerātus, perfect passive participle of veneror "worship, reverence"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/venerate

Home > Library > Words > Thesaurus venerate

verb

To regard with great awe and devotion: adore, idolize

You see in the real world, a Thesaurus helps define a word as much as a dictionary.

So the meaning of the word is triangulated by:

1. The actions of the worshippers of Mary - they actually worship.

2. The defenition of the Latin Word.

3. The Synonyms used to replace it.

4. It is translated Worship in the Bible.

Answer 1

Your question shows you do not understand Latin, English, Catholicism, or logic Since it is built on a false hypothesis, there is no way to answer it.

The intent of Y!A is to allow interchange of knowledge - you are trying to interject lack of knowledge. Give up.

Answer 2

The RCC does not worship Mary. But she has a "special position". The immaculate conception is a dogma, a cardinal point of doctrine for the RCC since 1854. This means: if you do not believe in it, you are not a catholic. Hello Tony Blair! "It was not until 1854 that Pope Pius IX, with the support of the overwhelming majority of Roman Catholic Bishops, whom he had consulted between 1851–1853, proclaimed the doctrine in accordance with the conditions of papal infallibility that would be defined in 1870 by the First Vatican Council." Wikipedia. Immaculate conception is part of the dogma, no way around that Officially the RCC does not worship Mary. They only worship God. That is a laugh of course. Many months ago I have proposed a bet here, but received no response: Anyone who claims the RCC does not worship Mary is invited by me to make a tour through South Italy and Spain. We will interview people in churches and see what they have most in their homes: the croos or the virgin. The person who loses the bet pays the bill. I only stay in better hotels (non US, non chains) and only go to better restaurants. I suggest 3 weeks. We could also go to Poland, but I do not like the kitchen there, though they have good hotels. The RCC do not worship Mary, they just encourage the people to worship her and then act as if they can not stop the simple people. Catholics have found out from a very early stage that irrationality is the key to the religious market .That is why they win from the protestants. That is why they migh lose from more more irrational denominations.

Answer 3

Hello,

Venerate is from veneratio meaning honor or respect when you check the Latin dictionaries. I respect my teachers and employer, we honor hockey, baseball players or military heroes.

Fallacy here of trying to use a persuasive definition - especially one that isn't correct in meaning.

By the way, the Latin verb for worship is colere and a worshiper is cultus.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cultus

Cheers,

Michael Kelly

Answer 4

You are very confused about your Latin terminology. No offense, but I suggest you do a little study on the subject. If you think "veneration" is equal to your idea of "worship," then you are indicting Abraham, David, Jacob, Cornelius, Peter, and the Apostle John, as well as several lesser figures in Scripture.

Answer 5

That's certainly not true.

Many Latin words have been reverted to English, and in the process their meaning has changed. Verbum, for example, means "word", not verb.

Venerate comes from the Latin "Venerari", which in turn comes from "Venus", which is the noun, "love", from the Roman Goddess of Love. Therefore, not even the Latin form means "worship". It means love or desire.

Your attempt at insulting the Catholics is futile, I'm afraid. They've done nothing wrong in "venerating" Mary, but showing love and admiration for her. Literally, they venerate her.

What do you say to that?

Answer 6

Venerate: "Philologically, to venerate derives from the Latin verb, venerari, meaning to regard with reverence and respect. This word derives from the same root as the name Venus, the goddess of love of the ancient Roman pantheon."

Of course, that begs the question: Why are you embarrassed about it to the point that you have to be deceptive?

Answer 7

Using a different word does not change the essence of what is being done. A definition of "venerate" is "to regard with respect or reverence." Nowhere in the Bible are we told to revere anyone but God alone. There is nothing wrong with respecting those faithful Christians who have gone before us (see Hebrews chapter 11). There is nothing wrong with honoring Mary as the earthly mother of Jesus. The Bible describes Mary as "highly favored" by God (Luke 1:28). At the same time, there is no instruction in the Bible to revere those whom have gone to Heaven. We are to follow their example, yes, but worship, revere, or venerate, no!
When forced to admit that they do, in fact, worship Mary, Catholics will claim that they worship God through her, by praising the wonderful creation that God has made. Mary, in their minds, is the most beautiful and wonderful creation of God, and by praising her, they are praising her Creator. For Catholics, this is analogous to directing praise to an artist by praising his sculpture or painting. The problem with this is that God explicitly commands against worshipping Him through created things. We are not to bow down and worship anything in the form of heaven above or earth below (Exodus 20:4-5). Romans 1:25 could not be more clear, "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen." Yes, God has created wonderful and amazing things. Yes, Mary was a godly woman who is worthy of our respect. No, we absolutely are not to worship God "vicariously" by praising things (or people) He has created. Doing so is blatant idolatry.

Answer 8

They worship Mary even though they claim they don't as this is the involvement of pagan roman/Greek societies

Popes have ordered shrines of Isis to be replaced with shrines of Mary

Mary is compared to as being a co-redemptress

The very idea comes from the Rome and Greek legends
where hades was the king of the underworld, and his wife Persephone was a human who He snatched

hades would judge them while Persephone would cry on their behalf asking for mercies.

In the same way the catholic elite who endorse the concept create the idea that Mary is able to hold back the wrath of her son.

This is populated i our society:

in the song let it be...the words are mother Mary comfort me

We have only one Redeemer in Christ

and God said he would leave us with the comfort of the holy ghost


when pope john Paul 2 got shot in the head he said, mother Mary, as opposed to saying God or Jesus, which would seem a Little word for a man who is called the vicar of Christ

whether catholics are aware or not aware, there is a need in the catholic church to raise Mary the level of deity.

With titles such as queen of the heavens, or the divine virgin.

The title of queen of heaven belonged to the mother of Nimrod, queen Semiramis. Nimrod built the tower of babel, it was destroyed by God. They then practiced reincarnation by sleeping with his mother, to produce one of many pagan trinities

father mother and son, vs Father Son and holy Ghost



peace in Christ

Answer 9

I guess if I saw someone kneeling in worshipful prayer before a statue of Mary, I wouldn't even have to ask what they were doing.

As clear as daylight!

Answer 10

It doesn't mean worship, and even if it did, word meanings change. The word vagina in Latin means sheath.