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In my life, I have been to the alter to be 'saved' twice. Once when I was very young, 16 and then again during a period of deep depression 5 years ago. Even so, I was still what you would call a "liberal Christian". Thank God.

I have since learned a great deal and I don't buy into that any more.



I am just curious what you all have to say.

I do not fear the biblical god.

It will be interesting to see if you agree with each other or not.

2007-11-19 05:26:01 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

It is embarrassing that I lacked the common sense to know better. Fear is a powerful tool for brainwashing.

2007-11-19 05:27:40 · update #1

I agree dear one, I am saved now that I am free from religion.

2007-11-19 05:47:05 · update #2

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Salvation is conditional. Contrary to what man teaches a Christian can loose salvation. It is biblical to say you can choose to leave Christianity. Salvation is a choice and we can leave at anytime. the once saved always saved doctrine goes against scripture and can be the cause of many to be rude and judgmental.
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2007-11-19 05:32:19 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I have been in the situation you have been in - liberal Evangelical Protestant finds out Bible is riddled with contradictions and an evil, immature God, reaches the point beyond which belief is possible, become agnostic, then atheist. Thinks it was all just brainwashing and a relic handed down.

I am now an orthodox Anglican Christian. I do not wish to suggest that your experience should be or will be the same, or to lay before you the path I traveled from there to here. Only to suggest that an immature view of God and the Bible and the use of fear for brainwashing is not representative of all of Christianity and that our ideas about God can grow up too. (I still don;t believe in the things I rejected.)

And to answer the question specifically, most Evangelicals are goibg to say you've blasphemed the Holy Spirit, which is unforgivable or say "once saved always saved" as if this is a sin covered by an initial acceptance of grace. I think that theological babble and hooey is silly and almost irrelevant to reality, certainly irrelevant to someone who is apostate and thereby not subject to theological drivel.

What matters is loving your neighbor as you would have them love you. To the extent you give love freely at any time you are living eternally.

2007-11-19 05:48:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Not all Christians say that. Genesis 1:1 says that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The bible does not say when he did that. It is a statement. Genesis 1:2 begins with God getting the earth ready for life. The word day does have different meanings in the bible. The only way we know that each creative day was at least 6,000 years long is because we are still in the seventh day. The bible does not say the seventh day has ended like it did with the previous days. According to bible chronology, Adam was created in the year 4027 BC. Add our current year of 2007 plus one year because there is no zero year and you have 6035 years. That is how long the seventh day has lasted so far. At the end of the seventh day God will bring to ruin all those ruining the earth. He will cleanse the earth and restore it to the paradise he intended for it to be in the first place. Never again will he allow mankind to ruin the earth. The earth will be a paradise forever.

2016-05-24 05:07:17 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Gorgeous,
I am what many call very Biblical. I believe that the Bible is GOD'S Inspired WORD and that HE has spoken to us from those writers. I do not put others down for their beliefs (including yourself) but I am a twenty-year Non-Denominational Christian who believes that most of those who call themselves Christians are actually not following what HE has told us to do. I do not know what CHRIST'S Decision at the Judgment will be but I would doubt at this time that you are heading for heaven. I leave that up to HIM and say that none save HIM will make that decision. I am not, nor will I ever condemn anyone. I believe that I am doing the best I can to follow what I have read and studied from HIS WORD. Have a wonderful week and a grand Thanksgiving!
Thank You,
Eds


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2007-11-19 07:16:03 · answer #4 · answered by Eds 7 · 1 0

Socko is right. Salvation is a life-changing event in one's life. The fact you never really had a change indicates you never experienced true salvation, rather went through the motions without true repentance or meaning. At the point of salvation (receiving Christ as Lord and Savior) the Holy Spirit enters into you and never leaves again. Salvation is binding and cannot be undone. Nor would you want it undone had you truly received Christ. You are changed on the inside forever. Many people, like you, sit in our churches today, going through the motions on the outside, but empty on the inside. The good thing is that as long as they go to the place where the gospel is taught and preached that one day they may understand and repent and be saved. I'm sorry you have rejected the church and more importantly Christ.......but, perhaps the Holy Spirit will come to you again and reveal Himself and God's purpose for your life. If so, I pray you give God a chance to prove to you Who He is and what He can do for you personally. God bless.

2007-11-19 05:46:44 · answer #5 · answered by Joyful Noise 5 · 2 1

Nope, sorry, too late, you have to go to heaven now. And there's also a requirement to believe, so you can't get away from it just by saying you don't believe. You have to.

And since you got saved twice, you have to believe twice as strongly as all the other Christians. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

And start learning the lingo too. Intersperse some "Praise God's" and "hallelujah's" in your sentences. Amen?

2007-11-20 05:41:59 · answer #6 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0 0

The official conservative line is that you were never "saved", whatever you thought or felt at the time.
Since a true Christian cannot fall away, anyone who does can never have been a true, saved, Christian.
It's a self-working proposition.

By any, and I do mean any, *other* measure I too was a Christian...
But now I'm an atheist, so I'm told that I never was, really.

2007-11-19 05:48:41 · answer #7 · answered by Pedestal 42 7 · 0 1

Why would you want to be? If you have no belief in God's word and no fear of the eternal wrath of God then what is there to be saved from? You say you have learned a great deal, who was your teacher? I hope that you continue to learn throughout your life time and maybe you can be "saved" again. God Bless

2007-11-19 05:34:09 · answer #8 · answered by enamel 7 · 3 1

Most likely you were never truly saved to begin with sounds like you started it by accepting Jesus but then NEVER got to know him. witch i think is part of being saved SO NO WORRIES ur not goin to heave so don't stress. lol

If YOU don't belevie there is any such thing as being saved then why are you worries that you still are lol

2007-11-19 05:47:09 · answer #9 · answered by Lee's Wife 5 · 0 1

You seem to be easily pursuaded into leaps of faith. You were 'saved' twice and now have absolute faith that the bible is nonesense. It doesn't sound like you have learned much--you just decided to side with the other guys.

2007-11-19 05:34:19 · answer #10 · answered by wayfaroutthere 7 · 3 1

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