2007-11-18 17:32:00 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Peter Priesthood R&S club 7- I realize that fate isn't in the bible, but many Christians I know are strong believers in fate, which they strongly associate with god's will.
2007-11-18 17:43:18 · update #1
Knowing everything doesn't effect free will in anyway.
Fate...where is that in the bible?
God's will is never put on someone who doesn't want it.
So no...it doesn't.
2007-11-18 17:35:53 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Simply put: depends.
Truth be told, for some people's beliefs, you would be right. The Calvinist view, for example, preaches predestination, which basically means that you don't have free will and nothing you do ultimately matters. People do good works and follow God in hope that they are one of the chosen, because doing those things are signs that you are one of the predestined.
But all Christians don't believe that way. Some are more deistic, believing that God sets the scientific rules, but then we are let go and allowed to do what we want. He knows what will happen, but that does not necessitate him "causing" it. If I set up a ramp and roll a ball down it, I "know" it will jump at the end, but I am not necessarily making it jump, and it could always roll off the side.
And others believe that God gives us choices to make. How we decide to choose dictates "fate." It is God's will for us to make the right choices, but he does not necessarily make it happen, but God can interfere where he sees fit. Let's call this "limited" deism. Some things are decided, but we are still given choices.
In the end, most Christians would agree on one thing: God may be omniscient and free will may or may not exist, but we are incapable of comprehending his omniscience anyway. So likely we'll never know while we live in this world. We can only speculate.
2007-11-18 17:41:27 · answer #2 · answered by Mr. Taco 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, because nothing can thwart Gods will. We all have a place within Gods will but it's our choice to be involved or not. Our free will is what we choose. Being with God or against Him. If we follow Him we get our part of His ultimate will. If we go away from Him His will gets done another way without us but still done. Then we just miss out on the joy of joining Him in His glory at the fulfillment.
2007-11-18 17:39:19 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
This question is often asked but never in well defined manner. Most people asking this question simply never learned how our mind working and just asking for simple answer that they can understand without any effort or further study.
For simple, neither yes nor no is a complete answer for this question.
2007-11-18 17:54:55 · answer #4 · answered by seed of eternity 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Understand there is CHOICE
There is no total Free will........
if that was true then man as he is already trying to do..would have destoyed his own race years ago even centuries ago...
God Gave man CHOICE
He said this " THIS DAY i lay before you BLESSING
and a CURSE..........
A BLESSING if you do my will.......
A CURSE if you do it not.......
Thats CHOICE either choose Blessing Gods Will ( Life)
or choose Cursing ( your own way ( thoughts etc) sin) (Death)
He didnt say choose your own will............do whatever you want blow it all up or destroy it all etc etc etc........
God is still God...
HE rises kingdoms up
HE tears kingdoms down......
We have that choice to either follow HIm or dont follow Him...
its called Choice...not total free will
Total Free will dont exist
Thus your conscience self........proves that point exactley !!
2007-11-18 17:40:38 · answer #5 · answered by hghostinme 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you hwve to maximum appropriate your concept anout hell. it is not have been you get punished on your incorrect deeds it rather is have been you notice the consequence of your deeds (incorrect onee) so as i stated its in comparison to God says in case you are trying this i visit punish you this sort. you will see the consequence of your deeds there. so unfastened will is easily unfastened will and there isn't any obstacles to a mans action yet we would desire to constantly be careful what may be the consequence of our movements
2016-10-01 04:12:33 · answer #6 · answered by jacobson 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
History proves God's will be done ... even when we choose to personally oppose it.
The fact that God can successfully compensate for our bad choices, and he knows what we will do, even before we do it, does not negate free will.
It merely underscores the fact that God is God, and we're not.
2007-11-18 20:19:16 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I always wonder about the same thing, how can there be free will if hell is dangling in the end. It's like me telling my kids "you can do what you want, but if it's not what I want you will be grounded!" Doesn't sound like free will there.
2007-11-18 17:42:04 · answer #8 · answered by sabina-2004@sbcglobal.net 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Omniscient creator and free willed created are incompatible concepts. John Calvin realized this, so Calvinism does not include the idea of free will.
2007-11-18 17:37:19 · answer #9 · answered by neil s 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Pagan thinking. You are born with a will that enables you to chose between evils. Psalm 14:1; '... the fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; there is no one who does good.'
2007-11-18 17:38:17 · answer #10 · answered by cheir 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
well, you weren't born in the past nor in the future, you were born in this time and are in this place. The rest, I think, are choices, forks in the road that you have to decide "yes" or "no", "right" or "left". The easy way always looks SO good!!!
2007-11-18 17:38:18 · answer #11 · answered by Somewhat Enlightened, the Parrot of Truth 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋