there is no one Greater then the father and only GOD is greater then the son... Jesus was and is not GOD but the son of GOD and before his earthly existence Jesus was know as the Word of GOD.
think of it like this GOD is the president and Jesus is the vice president they are 2 different beings and yet they are in agreement of whats in the best interest of their country. its really that simple.
and to add to your last statement why would GOD pray to him self and say father why have you forsaken me.
how can GOD sit at his own right hand and say to him self i will make all your enemies a foot stool at your feet.
why would he call his self father.
they are one in agreement not one as in the same being
2007-11-18 17:20:55
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answered by unitedfaith 4
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Ha! Nothing you claim here is "CLEAR." Certainly your presentation of this information is far from clear. I doubt most people here can even figure out what you are talking about. You also make some mistakes in your logic. Then fact that that verse was written decades after Jesus died is irrelevant, for one thing. I can write that my childhood pet was named "Frank" right now decades later. Would that make it untrue? For that matter, would it necessarily make it true? When I wrote it does not matter. I either was there or I wasn't. I either had a dog or I didn't. His name was either Frank or it wasn't.
In any case, I will never give credence to people who cherry-pick scripture to try to prove a point. One verse does not mean anything, especially taken out of context. Even Satan quoted scripture, so what you have here basically amounts to nothing but an opinion. Doesn't mean you are wrong... but it certainly means that it isn't "clear."
2007-11-18 17:16:56
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answered by Mr. Taco 7
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Jesus is BOTH God (second person of the trinity) and a real human nature man (born of a human mother). As a real man, He is not always aware of His share in the Divinity. Therefore, he speaks many times as one with a human nature. In other words, Jesus, as a man, does not always know everything. Also, even Paul was not fully aware of nor fully understand the dogma of the trinity as we know it today; Paul is also a man and simply recognizes Christ as a very special chosen man (Son of God) without realizing Himself the full extent of it all . Paul was not given any special knowledge of just how the dogma would later be formulated and which took hundreds of years yet to formulate. The second person of the trinity, which existed even before creation, is not God all by Himself. The second person of this trinity became man as Jesus in time. Jesus is not God all by Himself, but shares in the divinity as the Son of God. He partakes of the divine nature equally as Son of God (second person). It make no difference when some things were written as long as they were written. There is still only ONE God. There are three equal and distinct persons in ONE God. These three persons, as the basic internal thoughts of God, are actualized in the Bible, but still remain ONE God. Paul still recognizes there is still only ONE God and that Jesus is only His Son without truly realizing the full implication of what he is saying. We figure that out later.
2007-11-18 17:53:51
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answered by gismoII 7
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Philippians 2:5&6
5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
THE MIGHTY GOD
2007-11-19 01:39:48
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answered by Old Hickory 6
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1Cor.22:-28;
After he has saved the world as God sent him to do, he is the son of God like all the rest. and God is all in all. Rev.3:12; He is the same with the heavenly body, they do all they are to do gladly and are not famous, but give God all the credit.
2007-11-18 17:47:54
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answered by jeni 7
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God is fricking mysterious. You're bound to go off your head just thinking about it. So my advice to you is not to think about it too much. God is the Font of Tranquility, and quite frankly, I don't think He'd like the agitators here on Yahoo! anymore than the admins do.
2007-11-18 17:34:38
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answered by Somewhat Enlightened, the Parrot of Truth 7
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You are proper it is rather very noticeable that Jesus isn't God. IF it was once actual that Jesus was once God, it must be certainly and continually awarded within the Bible. Why? Because, because the apostles affirmed, the Bible is God's revelation of himself to mankind. And due to the fact that we ought to recognise God to worship him acceptably, the Bible must be transparent in telling us simply who he's. First-century believers accredited the Scriptures because the professional revelation of God. It was once the groundwork for his or her ideals, the last authority. For instance, whilst the apostle Paul preached to folks within the town of Beroea, "they acquired the phrase with the finest eagerness of brain, cautiously inspecting the Scriptures day-to-day as as to if those matters have been so."(Acts 17:10, eleven)What did distinguished guys of God at the moment use as their authority? Acts 17:two, three tells us: "According to Paul's customized . . . he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving by means of references [from the Scriptures]." Jesus himself set the instance in utilizing the Scriptures because the groundwork for his educating, commonly pronouncing: "It is written." "He interpreted to them matters referring to himself in all of the Scriptures."-Matthew four:four, 7; Luke 24:27. Thus Jesus, Paul, and primary-century believers used the Scriptures because the groundwork for his or her educating. They knew that "all Scripture is influenced of God and rewarding for educating, for reproving, for atmosphere matters instantly, for disciplining in righteousness, that the person of God is also thoroughly ready, absolutely able for each well paintings."-two Timothy three:sixteen, 17; see additionally one million Corinthians four:6; one million Thessalonians two:thirteen; two Peter one million:20, 21. Since the Bible can 'set matters instantly,' it must certainly display expertise approximately a question as foremost because the Trinity is said to be. But do theologians and historians themselves say that it's certainly a Bible educating? Does the Bible certainly say that Jesus is God, If that have been the Case then the Bible must say so,regularly folks use (John10:30)to end up that Jesus is God, But is that what it says there? No, In Fact, only some verses later Jesus himself says:"I am God's son"verse36,and in the38th verse, he explains what being one together with his Father honestly way:I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me, in (John8:fifty five)Jesus tells us that he observes God's phrase, does that make experience if he have been God he would not ought to comply with God's phrase on the grounds that he could be God!Just like if Jesus have been God he could recognise the day and hour of whilst the tip of the procedure of matters that we're residing in is(Mathew24:36) A PROTESTANT newsletter states: "The phrase Trinity isn't determined within the Bible . . . It didn't uncover a position officially within the theology of the church until the 4th century." (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary) And a Catholic authority says that the Trinity "isn't . . . instantly and instantly [the] phrase of God."-New Catholic Encyclopedia. The Catholic Encyclopedia additionally feedback: "In Scripture there's as but no unmarried time period wherein the Three Divine Persons are denoted in combination. The phrase [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first determined in Theophilus of Antioch approximately A. D. a hundred and eighty. . . . Shortly afterwards it looks in its Latin kind of trinitas in Tertullian." However, that is no evidence in itself that Tertullian taught the Trinity. The Catholic paintings Trinitas-A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for instance, notes that a few of Tertullian's phrases have been later utilized by others to explain the Trinity. Then it cautions: "But hasty conclusions are not able to be drawn from utilization, for he does now not practice the phrases to Trinitarian theology."
2016-09-05 08:47:56
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answered by ? 4
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There are dozens of Scriptures which show that Almighty Jehovah is the source of the authority that has been given to Jesus Christ. Plainly, the two are distinct persons.
(Matthew 28:18) And [the resurrected] Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been GIVEN me in heaven and on the earth.
(John 3:35) The Father loves the Son and has GIVEN all things into his hand.
(Acts 5:31) GOD EXALTED this one as Chief Agent and Savior
(Daniel 7:14) And to him there WERE GIVEN rulership and dignity and kingdom
(Matthew 11:27) All things HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO ME by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son but the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father but the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him.
(Philippians 2:9) For this very reason also GOD EXALTED HIM to a superior position
(1 Peter 3:22) [Jesus] went his way to heaven; and angels and authorities and powers WERE MADE SUBJECT to him.
(1 Corinthians 15:25) For [Jesus] must rule as king until GOD HAS PUT all enemies under his feet.
(Psalm 110:1) The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord [Jesus] is: “Sit... Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”
Incidentally, where is Jesus' exhalted position? It is NOT replacing Jehovah God, because Jesus remains humbly at Jehovah's right hand.
(Psalm 110:1) The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”
(Ephesians 1:19-20) the mightiness of [God's] strength, with which he has operated in the case of the Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places
(Acts 7:55,56) [Stephen], being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand, and he said: “Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.”
(Matthew 26:64) Jesus said to him: “...From henceforth you will see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power
(Romans 8:34) Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, rather the one who was raised up from the dead, who is on the right hand of God
(Colossians 3:1) Christ is seated at the right hand of God.
(Hebrews 1:3) [Jesus] sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places.
(Hebrews 8:1) Now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,
(Hebrews 10:12) But this man [Jesus] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God,
(Hebrews 12:2) Look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus. ...he endured a torture stake, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
(1 Peter 3:22) He [Jesus] is at God’s right hand, for he went his way to heaven
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http://watchtower.org/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_06.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20050915/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/200602b/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20050422/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/200612/article_02.htm
2007-11-26 06:55:13
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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Not a JW...
But You need to Rightly divide the WORD of TRUTH
which is Gods Word..cause you are in Err of its teachings and its wisdom.......
GOD is JESUS......JESUS is GOD in FLESH..
Cant seperate them into two or three.......
GOD is ONE.....Read the BIBLE....not some mans tradition or customs , or one mans wanting to do as he pleased to obtain life........
And before the worlds were formed..a lamb was slain from its foundation........and that Lamb was Christ.......
GOD made FLESH .........
And as He walked with ABRAHAM in the plains of mamre..and eat with him and sat with him and had his feet washed of his servants.....
Abraham talked with Jesus...years before Jesus's Birth......
God in Flesh....spoke and walked with Abraham.......and when Jesus was talking to the sect of Jews He told them this very Fact.........."" BEFORE Abraham was I AM ""
JESUS is GOD and GOD is JESUS........cant be seperated by time nor Name nor actions nor deeds nor WORDS !!
In the beginning was the WORD(JESUS)
and the WORD(JESUS) was with GOD
and the WORD(JESUS) was GOD
AND the WORD (JESUS) was made Flesh........( JESUS)
2007-11-18 17:18:57
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answered by hghostinme 6
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you missed a bunch of scriptures. Go back and start again, do not pass go, do not collect $200
2007-11-19 23:47:50
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answered by WhatIf 4
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