How does the Trinity doctrine devalue the merit of Christ's ransom sacrifice, and God's love for Christ and us

Question

Have you thought about how the Trinity doctrine discounts the love that Both God and Jesus demonstrated for us?How God hurt to watch His only-begotten son die? How Jesus was willing to give up his position in heaven at his Father's side to be obedient even to the death? How much it hurt both of them to be apart from each other?

Answer 1

Jesus, no more and no less than a perfect human, became a ransom that compensated exactly for what Adam lost—the right to perfect human life on earth. So Jesus could rightly be called “the last Adam” by the apostle Paul, who said in the same context: “Just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:22, 45) The perfect human life of Jesus was the “corresponding ransom” required by divine justice—no more, no less. A basic principle even of human justice is that the price paid should fit the wrong committed.

If Jesus, however, were part of a Godhead, the ransom price would have been infinitely higher than what God’s own Law required. (Exodus 21:23-25; Leviticus 24:19-21) It was only a perfect human, Adam, who sinned in Eden, not God. So the ransom, to be truly in line with God’s justice, had to be strictly an equivalent—a perfect human, “the last Adam.” Thus, when God sent Jesus to earth as the ransom, he made Jesus to be what would satisfy justice, not an incarnation, not a god-man, but a perfect man, “lower than angels.” (Hebrews 2:9; compare Psalm 8:5, 6.) How could any part of an almighty Godhead—Father, Son, or holy spirit—ever be lower than angels?

Answer 2

Why should it? It was there before Christ went to the cross. The Father, the Son and the Spirit of God; not just the Spirit of the Father but as so the Son. The Father can not be in the presents of sin but the Son can and also the Spirit. God's love comes to us through both the Father and the Son.

Answer 3

God did not pay any ransom to the devil to redeem man, as all the devil deserved for his treachery was punishment.

It was God the Father who was heard at Jesus' baptism, saying that he was well pleased with his divine son, who had by then completed 30 of the 33 years he would eventually spend on earth, all of which constituted a perfect and atoning sacrifice to God, for our benefit.

God as an eternally united Trinity means that Jesus' sacrificial work was in fact, God's total self-giving, for the purpose of our salvation.

It doesn't get any better than that.

Answer 4

i don't comprehend what you're speaking approximately, i want too yet, i don't see a sparkling question. yet while you're rather fascinated in certainty then learn why do you call the Messiah Jesus understanding that the scriptures say (No different call under heaven given between men wherein we would desire to be saved) while upon further examine you come across that J isn't latin or greek and it did not exist 2000 years in the past. in case you ask peter to take you to work out Jesus he would seem at you with a puzzled seem on his face and respond who or what in the international is that. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath amassed the wind in his fists? who hath certain the waters in a garment? who hath regular each and all of the ends of the earth? what [is] his call, and what [is] his son's call, if thou canst tell?

Answer 5

the structure or formula for God is not really something we can totally fully explain easily. People have been debating the Trinity concept for many many years, even though it is not a term that we explicitly see in the Bible. What is important is how we view God's authority in our lives.

For example, you couldn't say you believe in Jesus without accepting the power and authority of the Holy Spirit, nor then could you reject the Father's status. To us mere humans, they are essentially all God. if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit you blaspheme against God. If you were to ignore Jesus sacrifice you are rejecting the Father's offer of salvation and the opportunity for restored relationship with the Father by the Holy Spirit. Such is their unity that you can't believe or follow just one "part of God" because to us they all have the same authority over our lives.

Thinking correctly about God's offer of salvation through Christ, and the promise of the Holy Spirit to change our lives is essential to understanding God's nature, because He has fully revealed himself to us through Christ and the testimony of the Holy Spirit. Pray about it, ask God to reveal himself to you through His word, and rely daily on His Spirit to lead and guide you into truth.

Answer 6

By means of his death as a perfect human, Jesus also ‘gave his soul a ransom in exchange for many.’ (Matthew 20:28) When Adam sinned against God, he forfeited perfect human life and its prospects. But “God loved the world [of mankind] so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) Indeed, “the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.”—Romans 6:23.
It was as Mentioned " A Ransom In Exchange".. Almighty Did Not Die for Mankind. Its ridiculous to Suggest that he Did.

Answer 7

Is there any limit of biblical/Christian absurdity.
‘Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded form the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.’

Answer 8

I'm sure that someone who hated the Trinity doctrine, ergo the Trinity itself, could find a positive answer to your question. You are obviously belonging to a cult who hates Catholics. I'm guessing JW. Your soul is in peril. The teachings of that community is false. They don't even call themselves a church, and Christ said: "Upon this rock, I will build my Church." The Kingdom Hall is not a church, and is from its own name, false.

The kindest answer that I can give you is that no one can truly understand the Real Nature of God. The Holy Trinity is a way of trying to understand Him. Usually when the Holy Roman Church makes such a pronouncement, it is followed by a mystical confirmation. I will try to find that for you, so that at least there may be some understanding, and no longer any hatred from at least one of you.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm

Answer 9

Without the Trinity being true then Christ died on the cross for no reason as He could not be the Paschal lamb.

In Christ
fr. Joseph

Answer 10

It does not devalue it in any way. God became man as it was the only way we could be saved. That was the only sacrifice that could pay for our sin. It is all part of God's plan.