In what year and where did the Catholic church infallibly determine the canon?

Question

Duh 2 - I am not a Catholic. I just want to see the answers.

Peter Priesthood R&S club 7 - Go away. I have many Catholic friends on here. They know I do not ask from hate.

Answer 1

Edge, do not believe when someone says you bring hatred with your questions, the only reason people do not answer this is because they need to go to look for the answer, like me.

I love your questions, they make me to think.

Never has catholic church determined anything infallibly. God does not err, humans do.

As applied to the Scripture, canon means " an officially accepted list of books. I ti simportant to note that the church did not crete the canon; it did not determine which books would be called Scripture, the inspired Word of God. Instead, the church recognized, or discovered, which books had been inspired from their inception. Satated another way, " a book is not the Word of God because it is accepted by the people of God. rather, it was accepted by people of God because it is the Word of God. That is, God gives the book its divine authority, not people of God. They merely recognize the divine authority which God gives to it " Geisler GIB, 210

Athanius of Alexandria( A.D. 367 ) gave us the earliest list of New Testament books that is exactly like our present New Testament. He was also the first person in the church to use canon in this sense arouund AD 353.

Ten years later the Synod of Laodicea made the distinction between canonical from non-canonical books. The first appearance of the phrase "canon of the NT" appears about AD 400 in Macarious Magnes' Apocriticus 4.10.

The evidence clearly supports the theory that the Hebrew canon was established well before late first century A.D., more than likely as early as the fourth century B.C. and certainly no later than 150 B.C.

The last books written and recognized as canonical were Malachi ( written around 450 to 430 B.C. )and Chronicles ( written no later than 400 B.C. These books appear with the rest of the Hebrew canonical books in the Greek translation with the rest of the Hebrew canonical books in the Greek translation of the Hebrew canon called the Septuagint.

Edit: Somewhere around AD 180 to 200 rhew olsest known list of New Testament canon books was complied. It was discovered in the 1700 by a man by Antonio Muratori and counted 22 books as Scripture. The Muratorian Canon, as it has come to be known includes the Gospels, Acts, 13 letters of Paul, Jude, 1,2 and 3 John, Revelation.

The Gospel of John and parts of Galatians and Philippians date about AD180-200 - about the same time as the Muratorian Canon. It is a part of near complete New Testament called the Chester Beatty Papyrii and can be at the Chester Beatty Library, Dublin Ireland

The Greek copy of the Bible , Codex Sinaiticus, is dated about AD 350, and can be viewed at the British Library in London.

Councils of carthage, in 393, and Hippo, in 397, fixed the list of New Testament books into its final form

Christian Apologetics, Doug Powell

Answer 2

The Catholic church determined the authentic canon of scripture through tradition, and only later ratified it through church councils.

It was Jesus who gave Peter and the apostles together, the power to bind and loose, in heaven and on earth ... and their duly ordained successors continue to wield that power today ... for the edification of the only universal Christian church that Jesus ever founded, for the purpose of our salvation.

And if that's not infallible, then nothing is.

The Catholic church had officially and infallibly compiled all the authentic old testament scriptures, written all of the new testament scriptures, and translated the bible into the common language of the people at least a thousand years before the first protestant ever thumped a bible.

And that's a proven fact of history.

Answer 3

The Synod of Hippo (393) approved the NT canon as it is today, plus the Septuagint; this essentially ratified the canonical list Athanasius (Bishop of Alexandria) had put forth some years earlier and had first used the term "canon" in regard to the books of Scripture. The councils of Carthage, Florence and Trent reaffirmed this. (Some sources say that a list of all the inspired books of the Bible was first established by the Council of Carthage in 397.)

In essence, then, the canon was established in the fourth century.

Some argue that it didn't happen until the Council of Trent -- but as with many other official decisions coming out of Chruch councils, Trent's was a re-statement of what had already been accepted (in this case for 1150 years, give or take) rather than the date of inception of the dogma. Given that Trent occurred smack in the middle of the Reformation and indeed in response to it, it's understandable that the council wished to reiterate the Church's position on this.

Answer 4

Never happended. It is so that people can observe the lists and see what are the right texsts, people cannot determine the canon.

Eusebius divided the books into 4 categories, canonical, widely accepted, rejected ( also called " spurious" ) and heretical. In 325 he started to investigate the history of books that were being used as Scripture or had advocates who said they should be used as Scripture. The writings of the church fathers are important because they quoted so heavily from the writings they considered authoritative because of their apostolic origin.

I would say that the Muratorian canon was the earliest one.

Answer 5

In A.D. 363, the Council of Laodicea stated that only the Old Testament (along with the Apocrypha) and the 27 books of the New Testament were to be read in the churches. The Council of Hippo (A.D. 393) and the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397) also affirmed the same 27 books as authoritative
No early church council decided on the canon. It was God, and God alone, who determined which books belonged in the Bible. It was simply a matter of God convincing His followers of what He had already decided upon. The human process of collecting the books of the Bible was flawed, but God, in His sovereignty, despite our ignorance and stubbornness, brought the early church to the recognition of the books He had inspired.

Answer 6

The Catholic Church did no such thing.

Remember at the time of the Council of Nicea that the Roman Catholic Church Hierarchy did Not yet exist. It did not have that little piece of real estate yet in the Vatican until after 325 A.D. It was after the Council of Nicea that the Emperor set up the Catholic Church.

Answer 7

While the list of the Cannons were established in the late 4th century, the infallible determination was actually from the Council of Trent in the 16th century (1545-1563).

Answer 8

Edge....now you see what hatred you bring when you ask these types of questions.

You don't think you're being crude...but you really are. Just like Duh 2 answered is exactly how people see you.

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However, the canon(bible) was official in 398. The canon of the church however is constantly being added to. Once something is canon, it's not taken out...so it takes a lot for something to be canon law.

Answer 9

Never. The catholic church can do nothing 'infallibly', and your question is making a pretense that they did because you have been brainwashed into thinking it did. Your better repent of such hateful lies.