Why Would God Create Humans to be Imperfect, Then Punish Them Eternally For It?

Question

Does this make sense to anyone - except Christians, of course. He creates man and woman with the ability to "sin", then they do, then they are punished for it. He allows them to be born into countries where they will never hear of a Savior named Jesus, so they will be punished eternally for this also. Is this Loving and Divine? I know what the apostle Paul said about looking at creation to prove the existence of God, but it doesn't (or at least not that there is a savior) -- there is no one who can categorically prove or disprove whether a God exists. But if one did, would they be at this low level of consciousness so as to act capriciously, vindictively and sadistically? Beliefs only serve to separate and divide humanity, cause wars and all sorts of suffering. If sin causes suffering, would organized beliefs be one of them? Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason" does a very effective critique on all this. What true God would kill and destroy its own creation because of a temper tantrum?

Answer 1

God created humans perfect.
It was the decision of the first pair, to BECOME imperfect.

Answer 2

What reasonable atheist would undertake the task of arguing against a thing that does not exist? Existence has already been denied, so any arguments in defense are seen as erroneous by default. There is no possiblility of making a valid case.
False premis: God created man to be imperfect.
False premis: God intends to punish the created for having been created that way.
False premis: The ability to sin necessitated committing sin.
False premis: There are countries where man will never be able to hear God's word.
False premis: Divinity requires that the created have perfect knowledge.
False premis: Divinity is contingent upon adhering to the understanding of the created.
False premis: Failure of Divinity to adhere to the understanding of the created indicates capriciousness and low level of consciousness.
False premis: Belief in God is the reason for human suffering.

Reword the question any way you like. Until you travel to the place God dwells you will not find Him.

Answer 3

We are made in the image of God and the Angels, which includes our ability to love. God very often in Scripture using the analogy of the family unit as a method of teaching. Just as a human father would disipline and teach his children, so is the same with God. This is a teaching method. If someone tells you not to try to understand God because the concept is too big for you brain, then you are speaking to a biblically illiterate idiot. Perhaps you should hold your opinion for when you speak to someone who is knowledgeable of Gods Word, Gods mandates and Gods common sense teaching. Here is a thought for you: There is exactly the same amount of evidence that no God exists as there is that God does exist, so I suggest very strongly that you be at least 50% respectful and at least 50% open-minded. Why? Because you have obviously not tried to have a relationship with God, nor do you have any idea of the Scriptures that God sent so that you would not be confused like you are. The teachings are clear and full of wisdom and common sense. You choose to listen to any person no matter how unlearned they may be, who might try to answer your questions the best they know how, but you are taking whatever they say and holding it against a hundred million people. Instead of doing that, why not learn something yourself instead of mocking something you do not understand? Example: I still see Churches teaching that you will end up in a burning pit called hell and there forever and ever your flesh will burn and you will scream in agony. Ever hear that? Well, this would come from someone who does not understand Greek Idioms so commonly used in Scripture. Those who think they are headed for hell, are according to the manuscripts, headed for a classroom - THEY WILL BE TAUGHT, NOT BURNED. And yes, as a parent if my child does wrong, I respond by teaching the child, not by causing my child horrible pain. If you wish to condemn your own Creator, thats your business, but its only sensible to understand why you are condemning Him and yourself when you are doing it because some idiot said something stupid. If I say something stupid about eating food, will you stop eating? If I say something stupid about working or driving a car, will you stop driving and quit your job? Then why would you react this way because some idiot said something stupid about our Lord? No offense, but that seems kinda immature.

Answer 4

You're wrong thinking God requires people ignorant of the gospel to respond correctly to it. (However, you'd probably be amazed at how many individuals all over this planet do know the gospel).

You're also touting the old line that religion causes most wars. You need to study human nature more. Religious differences are only the clothing they wear, it's the heart, a lust for power, and ethnic hatred that's behind most waring. Sin, not religious differences are the cause of wars. Though some like Islamics (for example) enjoy using religious superiority as their excuse, even though they know it's old fashioned and illogical hatred that motivates them.

If you'll discover God truly you will understand your positions here as the incorrect beliefs they are. I hope you will.

It's not we who can judge God. The fact that he's set things in motion as he has is his own business. The fact that he has a way we are expected to follow is our business and what you need to focus on. Do his will and you'll be thrilled you did, and you'll understand that the whys and wherefores are not important. God is fair, on his terms, not yours or mine or anyone else's.

Answer 5

Dear Lady
It is with the ability to Learn
We will never learn anything worthwhile unless we push against the comfort zone and make the odd mistake here and there
If You could only see for Yourself how Precious these Human Life cycles truly are
This is an exceptional time to be born Human

Please May You See This For Yourself

Answer 6

God created humans and gave them the gift of agency so that they could choose to sin or not. He gave us the opportunity to choose right or wrong so that we could learn from our mistakes and become more like Him. As for those who know nothing of Christ, they will not be punished for just happening to be born on the wrong side of the world. The only people who will be punished are those who have the choice to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and then choose not to- denying christ. We will be punished for what we know and choose not to do, not what we dont know.

Answer 7

Although we are created imperfect we have the ability to choose to obey or disobey Him. This choice is the cornerstone of our free-will. God has made provision for those who have never heard the Word and will judge then differently than those of us who have and accept or reject it. The suffering we endure is our own fault, collectively. Judgement will come soon and all will witness the wisdom of God in dealing with His creation.

Answer 8

Great question and by your reference to
"The Age of Reason" Quote. I believe you might find this site interesting.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

It is Ancient Sumerian History- Sumer was the first known civilization and many artifacts and written tablets have been found.
The only ending sentences I can think of is-
Will the real God please stand up.
And that religious people would totally reject the above site contents..

Answer 9

"god" is not punishing anyone to hell. People condemn each other to hell. Since hell doesn't exist and is a mere construct of the human mind there is no possible way for anyone to truly be damned to burn for all eternity. People use it as a scare tactic b/c they are so convinced that theirs is the only correct way of viewing the world. I have no problem with people believing in whatever they want but I don't appreciate it when someone is egotistical enough to assume they are in some way better or more morally advanced than me and to assume that they have they know the state of my soul. It's just not right.

Answer 10

He is not a morning person.

It is amazing that people can feel good about worshiping a being that is capable of eternal torture. It is absolutely incredible that they can call the same being loving with a strait face.

Sing: God allowed Adam and Eve to be tempted before they had a knowledge of good or evil. They were not equipped to fight basic temptation let alone temptation from the father of lies. You would think God would have given them a fair chance. He didn't.

A loving God would have protected innocent humans from temptation, especially if they didn't have the ability to discern right from wrong. According to the bible God just left them to the snakes best shot. God clearly wanted Adam and Eve to usher sin into the world.

Thats why the Christian God concept doesn't work.

Answer 11

God created Adam/Eve perfect. By their transgression imperfection/sin was brought into the world. We have free will to choose eternal life. If we fail to choose eternal life. By default we choose eternal damnation, our fault, not God's.