I have just seen several posts that have left me very sad ... again
people speaking about abortions and being very descriptive with it etc
ok yes I am pro choice , but despite what I believe or what you believe
can we remember that there may be people on this forum who have lost babies and do not need graphic descriptions
or are you just lost in your cause to think about others ?
2007-11-18
11:23:21
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☮ Pangel ☮
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the amount of cold hearted replies here is seriously worrying
for Badger .. I am not Christian
for others who have said dont read ... it isnt ME I am thinking about
2007-11-18
11:31:26 ·
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(((((ecterbob)))))
then this is for you darling
2007-11-18
11:34:37 ·
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get a grip ...
I do agree with you on the matter
being pro choice doesnt mean I want everyone to go out and have an abortion ... far from it
2007-11-18
11:36:09 ·
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Angel .. I have thought about it
I have thought about it for 30 years
since the abortion of my own sibling
2007-11-18
11:43:04 ·
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((((((((Auntb)))))))) I feel for you xx
2007-11-18
11:56:00 ·
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Pangel;
If I remember correctly this isn't the first time you've asked people to think about your words, as some YAhooers forget that minors may be reading. Yet again it seems that many people aren't paying attention to what you are stating; I have to agree with you. Not all parents are diligent when it comes to monitoring their children's internet usage.
Yes people do not have to read the posts but even a disclaimer at the top of a post to warn of a descriptive content would still be something. I too have had lost babes; even before then I couldn't stand to read overly graphic descriptions of abortion or d&cs either.
Religion, personal belief etc should not get in the way of common decency. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be able to speak freely but with freedom of speech comes responsibility. Just because I can say something, doesn't mean that I should (and yes I don't comment onften on the heavier subjects on YA but I still try to watch my words; and use the modify or edit buttons if I feel I may offend).
I am commenting this time because it's not the first time Pangel has been flamed/attacked for her compassion; I wish half the people I meet on and offline were as compassionate as Pangel :)
2007-11-18 12:54:56
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answered by Opalfire 3
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I am pro-life. It is sad to go over those pictures and I can understand they can hurt those who did abortion before. However, in my humble opinion, it is good to make those who never did it aware of what it is.
I don't judge people who did abortion. I am against the act. I have friends myself who did abortion and I love them even more, especially because I see how much they suffer for having gone through such a traumatic procedure, but I will never deny the fact that abortion is not the right choice. Statistics show that only 1% of abortions are done because of rape and medical conditions. About 90% of women choose abortion only for some sort of convenience.
Abortion is more than a choice and it is more than just a woman's choice. First of all, men should also come on board not only concerning the final decision, but primarily about their responsibilities. I am sure, I am totally sure, that if half of those jerks assume their responsibility as a father, abortion rate would decrease dramatically.
Abortion is a fake easy way out. It is not easy at all. Ask any woman who did it and you will see. Most of them regret it. If they don't regret it right after doing it, they will eventually later in their lives. It is painful, it is humiliating and it is sad. No woman does that with a smile... it is a tough choice that should never be imposed to a woman who is going through a hormone battle and all the distress of being pregnant of a man who couldn't care less. They usually make the decision under psychological preasure. It is not fair.
I am not going to mention the spiritual debt a woman gets for herself with such decision. A child is a child at the moment of conception for a woman who decides to have her baby, and it is not different if she decides not to have it. The value a woman gives to her baby in the womb doesn't vary according to her feelings about him/her.
I am sorry to go over that subject, but it is very touching to me.
Peace!
Edit: I always say that an unborn baby is a person who could change the world who is wasted for selfishness.
2007-11-19 06:02:10
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answered by Janet Reincarnated 5
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You know, I think somewhere there got to be this terribly mistaken notion that if you made graphic depictions and lurid descriptions of abortion, it would gross people out so they would not have one. Guess again: it just lets them know how cruel you can be, and they get defensive.
It is very, very rare for someone to have an abortion because they are just hard-hearted. In my own case, I was simply boxed in, left with no alternative by the people who held economic power over me. In other cases, a woman may have gotten pregnant under such unhappy circumstances that she simply cannot imagine being able to love the child. There are lots of heart-breaking reasons why people have abortions, but they very rarely do so without a lot of very tough decision-making and usually a great regret that it was necessary.
I remember when I was a child, the other kids used to tease me so bad about being fat. And once when even the girl I had believed was my best friend said something cruel, I asked her why, with tears in my eyes. She said that she figured if she made me miserable enough, it would make me want to lose weight. I screamed at her, "You cannot possibly make me WANT to lose weight more than I do already!" And of course, that's the situation here. Mistaken ideas of what will influence people will just make everything worse, not better.
There's no substitute for compassion, folks!
2007-11-18 11:53:42
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answered by auntb93 7
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Regarding abortion, I am pro-life in all cases, but people should definately keep sensitivity in mind when they speak. Using tact can help other people to at least see where you are coming from, and you may even change a mind or two. Using shock value will make people want to ignore you or just disagree with you regardless of what you say. Plus, you may upset those who agree with you but don't like the way yuo present it. I know I don't want to read details about this topic, although I have seen them before. I'm squeamish...sue me. Hehe.
Blessings in the Light of Christ!
~Embracing my Pangelism
2007-11-18 14:31:53
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answered by Guvo 4
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These people speak this way because they are deluded nuts. But they have a cause, and probably the mental capacity to work out that by giving descriptive accounts of abortions they can shock their readers into taking their side.
Like anti-speeding advertisements which show children being run over, the intention is well meaning.
And to be fair your browser does have a close function.
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Angeltress what an insufferable rant. Just read your hateful drivel and it's completely changed my mind. What is it that gives you the right to make such sanctimonious judgements on the lives, experiences and emotions of others you will never know or even meet?
However zealous your religious convictions you know that it is illogical to declare that whatever pain experienced by an embryo when terminated gets near to the lifelong pain and guilt felt by an unwanted baby and it's family.
It amuses me how the religious feel that they must seize every opportunity to defend God and His feelings at all costs. You'd think he could take care of himself by now.
2007-11-18 11:55:36
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answered by Anonymous
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I was going to star this and move on as I tend not answer questions here much.
Then something prompted me to go in search of the post you were referring to.
Not much here shocks me anymore, but that did. Partially because I thought the individual in question was above that kind of emotive, cruel blackmail, but mostly because it hit me like a ton of bricks...how dare they!
I was abused, by a blood relative at an age where I could have conceived. Think about this for a moment - a scared child in an abusive household, at an awkward age, confused about her physical and mental changes, alone and terrified. Think about her getting pregnant - a pertrified, guilt ridden child carrying a monster's baby and being told "Too bad hon, you're stuck with it!".
I can't begin to describe the bitterness that post has stirred within me.
2007-11-18 12:22:40
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answered by . 6
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I can sympathize with your position but many out here feel it is their ultimate freedom by exhibiting condescending morality upon others until it sparks outrage.
I myself feel abortions are not necessary in 99% of cases. Yes some may warrant it at times but population control is ludicrus. If more thought was put in before the act, there would be less discussion and sentiments later.
Yes it is descriptive. Some things would be better served if we did not have to make an issue at all.
Make sense?
Get A Grip
2007-11-18 11:34:18
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answered by Get A Grip 6
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I`ve lost a baby in the past but i`m not in any way offended by people talking about it or about abortion.
The harsh realities of life are a fact, if people are grieving then perhaps they should be careful about entering a site that will have a multitude of opinions from the good, the bad and the ugly!
Honestly, it`s not offensive to me, everyone has a right to their opinion and to express it however they wish.
Edit; i am seriously worried that someone with the views of ANGELTRESS is counselling women who have had abortions, there is something seriously wrong with that set up, she shouldn`t be working with vulnerable people with such views. (seriously)
2007-11-18 11:34:07
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answered by Sir Bobby`s Hairdresser 6
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I think you are been unreasonable asking this ''community''this question.As you know the internet is a big big thing.Of course there is sensible,thoughtful,nice ,polite,educated people out there.But of course not all !!!
You can not,unfortunatelly change this.This forum as well as others are visited also by mindless,nasty,small minded,rude,low lifes.Sorry about that.
2007-11-18 12:57:05
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answered by Anonymous
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i don't know what to say ,if on the one hand you are pro choice ,but the idea of the act appalls you ,well i truly feel sorry for you my friend.perhaps this is something you need to work out in your own mind.
2007-11-19 14:30:31
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answered by joe c 6
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