Mathew 20:19 "and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!"
Mark 10:33 "We are going up to Jerusalem," he said, "and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will hand him over to the Gentiles."
Luke 10:32 "He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and kill him."
2007-11-17
21:12:45
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pfft, Jesus was illiterate of course, but these are claimed to be quotes. They all of course have the same source, and are supposed to be the same quote... But that's a silly detail.
2007-11-17
21:19:14 ·
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To other responders:
-Umm, actually, no, the vast majority of all people of Jesus's social standing were illiterate, 95% of the Roman Empire was illiterate, and there were no such requirements that he write or go to public schools as implied. It would've been preposterous should he, living in a carpenter's household, not spent his childhood apprenticing as a carpenter. For the most part, only the rich new how to read, and 95% of the world was illiterate at this point in time, without even taking into account his social status.
2007-11-18
22:34:56 ·
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Jesus wrote those? Oh cool I didn't think Jesus wrote those, I thought they were written by a wealthy priest who could actually write, unlike 99% of the people at that time.
Thanks for clarifying that with me.
2007-11-17 21:17:14
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answered by ianmac77 2
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Its undemanding- who chaired the Council of Nicea the place the 'New" testomony became canonized? Constantine- a Roman Emperor finding for a device to apply to pacify his empire- and seeing in Christianity that device. in basic terms difficulty- if it blamed the Romans for the dying of their God- no Roman became going to settle for it, so the Jews have been a reachable scapegoat- plus it have been given rid of that embarrassing question; "If Jesus became the Messiah and King of the Jews, why did maximum folk of Jews reject him?" So how do all of us know that the account of Jews killing Jesus is nonsense? reading the Gospel account shows it for what that's. The so pronounced as trial given interior the NT tale is the thoroughly opposite of the Jewish regulation a million) It happens at evening- all trials have been held throughout the day 2) It happens in a private living house- all trials in Jerusalem have been held interior the courtroom of the Sanhedrin interior the Temple courtyard 3) there have been very few human beings recent - there would desire to be a minimum of 21 judges in a capital case- in Jerusalem the full Sanhedrin of 70 judges heard capital circumstances. 4) If a courtroom won't be able to stumble on a individual to blame, they are forbidden reachable them over to secular government - the "courtroom" interior the NT would not discover Jesus to blame, and then arms him over. So 4 severe violations of the halacha (Jewish regulation)- which because of the fact that they have been in a capital case means the dying sentence for those committing the violations- however the NT retains slandering the Pharisees and their strict adherence to the regulation! On precise of that- you have a huge problem, a Roman governor who's later bumped off for severe cruelty! (you acquire to ask your self- and this from a those that watched human beings combating to dying, getting eaten alive etc for relaxing!) And yet a conquered, powerless team of persons is by some means meant to have the skill to get him to obey them? What does make experience is that if this complete ridiculous difficulty is inserted in to do away with the blame from the Romans while the early Christians have been attempting to transform them and mandatory a scapegoat! Who extra applicable than the those that had rejected their new God - to removes the blame from the persons they are attempting to transform on the same time as giving an excuse why maximum folk of them have rejected him!
2016-10-17 04:10:10
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answered by ? 4
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Quite honestly, it has been the single most common (and a very lame cover for a basic character flaw at that) excuse for the persecution of the Jews since.
However Jesus stated in:
John 10:18 No one can take my life from me. I lay down my life voluntarily. For I have the right to lay it down when I want to and also the power to take it again. For my Father has given me this command. (NLT)
(and this does not contradict as the Jews who brought him to the Romans and the Romans who carried it out were simply a vehicle used to accomplish the task)
edit-- "pfft, Jesus was illiterate of course" Wow a bit of historical ignorance... If Jesus was indeed a carpenter and if he wrote and filled contracts and other business documents he would have, by Roman law had to be at least able to read and write in Greek to conduct business. We know he could read Hebrew as the read from Isaiah in the Synagogue.
Why bother with educating yourself, it would take far to much time.
2007-11-17 21:22:34
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answered by δοῦλος Χριστοῦ Ἰησοῦ 5
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THE REAL TRUTH
1. It is STUPID to BLAME the crucufixion on ANYBODY because the Christians are GLAD he was crucified. THE VERY CENTER OF THEIR FAITH is that Jesus CAME to die for our sins and that he was SUPPOSED to be crucified. This was supposed to be THE FULFILLMENT OF GOD'S PLAN and I fail to understand why they would be angry at someone for fulfilling a plan that they see as ESSENTIAL to human salvation.
2. IT IS BEYOND ALL REASON since Jesus and his mother and ALL OF HIS FOLLOWERS DURING HIS LIFETIME were Jews. Blaming the Jews therefore includes blaming the diciples and all the peolle who honored him.
3. Some people will LIE and say that those people were not Jews , but since they were ethnically Jewish and PRACTICED JUDAISM including going to the temple (where the Bible says Jesus turned over tables) and and its rituals. Jesus NEVER called for an end to Judaism or the punishment of its adherents.
4. The truth is that some people hate Jews FOR NOT ACCEPTING JESUS AS THE MESSIAH and providing evidence to support the belief that he was not. Since the very idea of a messiah comes from Judaism and the messiah was supposed to come to the Jews according to the Old Testament noone would have better information on that than the Jews. They are seen as a threat (by some) to Chritianity by the very nature of their beliefs.
5. Being a Shia muuslim I have no reason to lie about any of this.
2007-11-17 21:45:14
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm not sure really, The Jewish Priests at that time had a lot to loose because of Jesus and his popularity. He really exposed the hypocrisy that was going on between the priests and Roman governors.
The comment is more likely to show that Jesus was to be tried by pagans rather than his own people. Jews were not to be judged at that time of year. What is interesting is that Jesus did fulfill every part of the prophecy. Especially not having a bone broken. from the book of Isiah.
2007-11-17 21:18:18
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answered by fire 5
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I don't know why you would think that Jesus was illiterate. Roman Palestine had public schools, and illiteracy was virtually unheard of in Hellenistic Galilee. He was almost certainly capable of reading and writing in Greek, would have been fluent in Greek and Aramaic, and would have probably been capable of reading Hebrew.
Otherwise, People who blame the crucifixion on "the Jews" don't generally base their religious opinions on Scripture.
2007-11-17 21:41:31
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answered by NONAME 7
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I don't give a damn whether he was killed by the Jews or the Romans (even though the Romans physically killed him).
Jesus had to die. If he lived in Australia for example, the Australians would kill him, so as in China, Russia etc and etc.
I don't worry about it, because he's still alive (well I believe that). Hey, but the Jews (the crowd and the pharisees) also wanted him dead, so let's be fair here.
The Jews wanted him dead and the Romans KILLED him. Spiritually, we all human beings killed him, he died for OUR sins.
2007-11-17 21:27:16
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answered by Anonymous
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The New Testament makes it abundantly clear that the Roman magistrate didn't want to execute Jesus but was pushed by the Jewish priests who threatened him with riots.
2007-11-17 21:23:15
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answered by Belzetot 5
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off the top of my head...
because the jewish leaders at the time broke every rule in their own book plus a few more to have him killed.
Not that it matters one iota, as according to jesus everyone's sins for the whole history of human existence is what actually killed him. we are all to blame.
2007-11-17 21:25:33
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answered by cc_of_0z 7
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Your question will be clarified if you read Peter's comment in his speech to Jews in Acts 2:23.
2007-11-17 21:22:37
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answered by Averell A 7
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