I just asked a question about how christians see themselves and if they see themselves as the original religion then how any other group can ask them how they ripped off their stories or their religion becasue according to them, the other group was the one that ripped off their stories and broke off of their original religion that started with Adam and Eve,
So many people went off on how christianity wasnt the first religion and how people were here before christianity.
Do you people not get that according to christians (and I am not saying this is right or wrong) there wasnt a religion before them becasue their religion didnt start at Christ. It started at Adam and Eve? Christians believe their religion started at the beginning of the earth and was just changed a bit when Christ came. They werent called christians in Old Testament times, but Christians consider their church and religion now to be just a continuation of the Old Testament church of God.
2007-11-17
21:04:31
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I dont understand why people got so defensive over this concept because I am not saying this idea is right or wrong and I am not saying it is how history happened, I was just trying to ask a question based on how this particular group views their religion and their history.
2007-11-17
21:05:46 ·
update #1
I still really do wonder how nonchristianss expect christians to answer those kinds of questions if christians assume they were here first, not them. If anyone would like to answer that question too, it would be nice.
2007-11-17
21:09:15 ·
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corrosion
I just saw that you actually added to your answer. Your added part kind of adds to my point, actually. If the christian is assuming they were here first then how in the world are they suppose to give any kind of answer to a question that asks them questions based on the fact that they werent here first. Their answers will always be, no you ripped us off.
2007-11-17
21:11:08 ·
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Oh my I think I am going to give up on this question, lol.
I am not asking this question based on your own personal views of the begining of the earth or religion. Or based off of what other religions claim. My point is that according to CHRISTIANS, their religion does indeed claim that Adam and Eve was part of the true gospel of God, which would make them part of their religion as well, and so if they church started at Adam (according to CHRISTIANS) then what is the point in asking them about ripping other people off? They would always answer that those other people were ripping them off.
2007-11-17
21:14:08 ·
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Deic,
I agree, they arent taking other peoples views into consideration when asked a question based on their own religion. Very few people do. So whats the purpose of asking a question that cant possibly get any other answer then, no it was mine first?
2007-11-17
21:15:44 ·
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rant and ee
my question isnt, are they right
my question is and was, according to what they believe they think they are right and they were first, so what do you expect them to answer when you ask questions like how do you explain other people were here first?
2007-11-17
21:17:37 ·
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How would most christians disagree with me if they believe in the Old Testament?
Ask any christian to trace a timeline of their religion. Do you think it would stop at Christ? or at Adam and Eve?
2007-11-17
21:19:41 ·
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lol tut, that was a good way to word it, thanks
2007-11-17
21:20:14 ·
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geri
I dont care who claims what as first or who is right or wrong
That was never the point of my question.
Someone had asked a question a few min before directed to christians asking if they realized their religion took someone elses creation story that existed before their religion existed. And I have seen those kinds of questions asked a lot. Those questions just dont make sense to me because they are asking someone that thinks their story was first to explain how their story ripped off another story. Well, the person they are directing the question to would just say, no they stole my story cuz my story was first.
I could care less who really was first and never ever claimed either was correct.
2007-11-17
21:36:31 ·
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Do you really believe that these people are going to get the point of your question? Most aren't even reading your question correctly.
I've never heard the claim that Christianity started with Adam and Eve. Christians or at least Catholic Religious classes have always said (or at least the ones I attended) that Christianity evolved from Judaism. Jesus was Jewish not a Christian. He was fulfilling prophesy. The Christian Religions began after his death because the Jewish leaders did not recognize him as their Messiah.
If there are some Christian Religions that are claiming their religion began at the beginning then there is no argument or discussion for them. They've always been around and that's that!
2007-11-18 01:07:27
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answered by gigilunadragon 2
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It's a particular view of history, although the historical veracity of what you have said is well and truly open to debate. Theologically, Christianity regards itself as being the fulfilment of the Old Testament, although the Jews will dispute this.
They wouldn't see things in terms of ''ripping off'' the stories of other religions, they would justify in terms of Christology, eschatology and the fulfilment of prophecies.
I can see why people may have become defensive, given the way you have expressed your ideas. As for me, I don't fundamentally disagree with what you have to say, but I am sure that many Christians won't share your point of view. It starts to become rather circular, particularly when you view, say, Islam in the same context and its borrowings from the Old Testament and Christianity.
I'm not really clear about your argument seeing it is rather circular itself, which makes giving you a satisfactory answer difficult.
2007-11-17 21:12:36
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answered by chris m 5
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Do Christians have so little understanding of the real world according to how normal people see the world?
You just said that Christian don't believe in the Sumer civilization who first came up with the Great Flood idea because according to you, Christianity didn't rip off their mythology from any other earlier culture. So what do Christians think this tablet is? Is it a hoax?
http://www.earth-history.com/_images/ms2814.jpg
This tablet tells the a story that is very similar to the one in Genesis.
2007-11-17 21:11:12
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answered by Anonymous
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Your question is the perfect example of ego. It doesn't matter who got to the "truth" first. The thing that matters is that we live to the very best of our ability to follow God and his teachings. It's futile to concern ourselves with "what came first, the chicken or the egg." It will take all of our concentration just to stay on-track as a Christian.
That said, there were two laws, the Old Law, and the "perfect law of liberty," the law of Christ. The Old Law was the Law given to Moses on the mount. In other words, the 10 commandments (which consisted of much more than just the 10 commandments). The law of Christ replaced the Old Law.
There are many similarities between many of the religions of today. To me, that points to the fact that it is "Truth" speaking to us. I'd rather focus on Truth rather than on who "got it first." Who really cares who had it first just so long as it saves our souls? Satan uses arguements such as yours to "divide and conquer." And his method is very effective, wouldn't you say?
2007-11-17 21:30:47
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answered by Geri42 7
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Why should this atheist be defensive about your or any believers' concept of history?
As new evidence arrives, even biblical history changes. See Israel Finkelstein, noted archaelogist from U. Tel Aviv.
Except for very few rigid fundamentalists posting here, I don't know anyone well enough to use inductive reasoning as to what answers they may provide.
2007-11-17 21:08:18
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answered by Anonymous
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No offense, but your questions haven't been worded very well, and it's difficult to see your meaning. Try this:
"If Christians believe their faith extends to the creation of the universe, what's the point of telling them that certain faiths predate Christianity?"
2007-11-17 21:19:01
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answered by Tut Uncommon 7
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you are wrong muslims claim islam started at Adam and eve but Christians have never claimed that. Israel and Judaism came way before Christianity
Christians are those who followed the way Jesus taught he was the Jewish messiah.
2007-11-17 21:09:54
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't get it. It's rather silly to think that the first people on earth were automatically religous, religion is something that develops over a long time. It's doubly silly to take the bible's stories are literal.
2007-11-17 21:09:50
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answered by Sierra 2
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Then i guess there is no answer to your question. you're running us around in circles. we tell you you're wrong, because Christianity was NOT the first religion. and you tell us we're wrong, because you DO believe you were the first.
there is no winning with that kind of logic. you if arnt willing to listen to our side then there is no sense asking the question.
most Christians wouldn't agree with you anyway, but if that's what you believe, fine.
if you come up with a more cog nascent question, please post it.
2007-11-17 21:13:48
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answered by rantan1618 3
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we understand that christians have a distorted world veiw. we understand their arrogance leads them to make claims that they are original.
we know what they believe. we also know that it is innaccurate. do you have a point in expressing why we should be sympatheitc to their veiw when we know it is a false veiw?
why do we try to tell them that their religion is hodgepodged when they believe it is truth? because they are prisoners to these lies and since their vote counts, it serves us best to enlighten them despite that they believe in adam and eve.
2007-11-17 21:14:52
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answered by eelai000 5
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