what do you tell someone who is trying to find god but can't ignore the science?

Question

i try to believe but i always correct myself with science facts

Answer 1

I'd tell him that science is NOT incompatible with God . . . it's incompatible with religion.

Stephen Hawking WAS an atheist who is now a theist. A large part of that conversion was disdain for the arrogance displayed by many atheists. They scoff at the idea of God because there is no evidence for Him. However, as Hawking pointed out, if all scientists thought that way, black holes would never have been discovered. There was no evidence for them.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle points to a mystical side of quantum physics that stretches credulity and suggests "mind" as a component of the material universe.

Matter emerges from nowhere and disappears again. Subatomic particles can’t both be and be known to be. Matter shifts from existing to only having the potential to exist.

Our human acts affect what is true at the quantum level. The act of measurement distorts what’s being measured. Human consciousness itself seeps into the discussion of quantum physics. Consciousness, mind, data, whatever you want to call it, is beginning to factor into quantum physics and even black holes.

These trends remind me of Albert Einstein's cosmic God. Although he didn't believe in religion or a personal God, he did believe in a cosmic God, as evidenced by one of my favorite quotes of his:

"Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust - we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper." ~Albert Einstein

Given the way life is so tenacious, adaptive, and varied here on Earth -- almost as if it has a mind of its own -- I wouldn't be surprised that we find life is abundant throughout the universe. And that life does have a mind of its own . . . a mind hinted at by the mystical aspects of quantum physics . . . a mind that is part and parcel of the material universe . . . a mind that is as close as you can get to God.

Answer 2

My advice is definitely to keep the science. If the Gods exist, science will not contradict them.

You are probably already aware that you can't prove that Gods don't exist, and that there isn't any concrete material proof in favor of their existence. In the absence of material proof one way or another, I think it's reasonable to begin personal experimentation.

In fact, there is a famous philosophical argument that goes something like this: If spirituality is a relationship with a supernatural being, then you will not find it through natural (scientific) means. A relationship requires two parties to acknowledge each other and interact. So how do you acknowledge something you aren't sure is there? Well, you can say honestly that you aren't sure if any Gods are out there, but that if they are, you would be interested in communicating with one and starting a relationship. Then wait. Maybe something will happen and maybe it won't, but just like it doesn't mean that someone doesn't exist if you call and they don't pick up the phone, it doesn't mean if there is no response that there are no Gods. It does, however, give you less reason to believe if you ask repeatedly and nobody ever responds. In the absence of physical proof, personal experience is the deciding factor.

No God with any sense of fairness should ever blame you for not believing if they haven't given you any reason to believe in them.

If you want to be fair about your experimenting, don't write off any particular religion or concept of God before personally investigating it yourself. Don't assume that there is only one God, for example, or that only one religion should be trusted. Find out about them yourself and make your own decisions. You just might be surprised.

Answer 3

Science without religion is stupid, and religion without science is blind


"Albert Einstein"

The belief in God Should not separate the science from it.

I believe some of what science says is indeed true, but of course their is a Line.

the wise thing to do is if he cant ignore the science Let him find the science behind God, Of how God created everything.
King Solomon even did this. King Solomon observed the laws of Nature and Learned from Nature. He learned much about Human Nature by watching the nature of every living thing that he saw.

Answer 4

Start with the basics. People are sinners. People need a savior. God sent a savior, Jesus, to take the punishment for your sins. If you accept this and ask the Lord into your life and ask His forgiveness and desire to follow Him, He will teach you what you need to know through the Bible. (Psalm 32:8 says " I will instruct you and teach you in the way which you shall go. I will guide you with my eye." God invented science. He has all the answers. Pray. Ask Him to help you understand. A lot of people get bogged down with the science question. The devil loves that. The important thing is: a man died 2000 years ago. He was seen up walking around again a few days later. There were over 500 witnesses. He has changed millions of people's lives (mine included). He said He was God. He did many miracles. He said that whoever believed in Him would have eternal life with Him in heaven. John 3:16.
You can deal with the science questions later. It took me years of prayer and research to sort it out. Read the Bible (New Testament first).

Answer 5

Scripture and scientific FACTS do not contradict one another. Some erroneous conclusions made from some of these scientific facts do contradict scripture. For example. FACT - Animals give birth to their own kind. Every observable event of this kind holds it out to be true. This does agree with scripture. It contradicts the idea that evolution happened. FACT - There is fossil evidence of animals in the past that no longer exist. Extinction as a result of either a catastrophic event or of simple survival of the fittest makes sense THIRD LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS - Basically, systems go from specific to random - not the other way around. Energy and energy systems "run down" in time. They don't "build up". This points to the idea that Adam and Eve were perfect physical specimens and with each later generation, humanity declined a bit. Could explain the idea that we only use a small part of our brains - Adam and Eve were probably able to talk to the animals - they used all of their brains.

Don't be fooled by the politicization of "science". In the 70's, we were headed to the next ice age. Now we're going into global warming. That was a pretty short ice age.

Answer 6

That the two aren't mutually exclusive. Science and God can go hand in hand. A few links below is a question about Einstein, which shows that even the great minds of science get religion. Unless you are creationist, in which case evolution may cause a bit of trouble....

Answer 7

I grew up 'understanding god replaced into genuine' too... Then i began out to think of for myself and ask questions... that replaced into over 40 5 years in the past... in case you look definitely and objectively, you will see that your know-how of your god is in keeping with 'faith and theory', no longer something greater... you haven't any longer have been given any info that your 'person' made something, you in basic terms 'have self assurance' it did... If that's suitable to you, so be it as i do no longer care what you desire to 'have self assurance', yet do no longer bypass approximately attempting to persuade others which you 'know' something... till you provides genuine info to back you up... hint: Your 'faith and ideology' are in basic terms info which you have 'faith and have self assurance'... some thing that Muslims even have. the reality which you would be able to no longer 'have self assurance' that it could have occurred any opposite direction, is likewise no longer info IMHO

Answer 8

Think about it like this if you must think about it at all:

What makes this science true? What makes these elements and laws exist, where did they come from? Yes. There are explanations for that, but what is everything deepest origin? What makes the explanations true?There is where you find god.

God isn't about disregarding or ignoring science, its about appreciating the fact that there's a driving force and a deep origin to everything in the universe. Trust me, it takes some brain-racking thinking, but try to move past the superficial.

Religion itself is iffy, but there's nothing wrong with believing in your own idea of god.

Answer 9

The two don't have to be in conflict. If you want to worship the 'god' of Abraham, as the Jews, Christians and Muslims do, then you just take the scripture as allegory and figure that evolution is 'god's' method of creation.

Or, you can find a religion, like Wicce, that embraces the Natural world as divine and sees evolution as the birth process on a planetary scale, so again, there's no conflict.

Answer 10

You don't have to ignore science in order to find God. God is the greatest scientist of all time. It is us that's trying to figure it out with our limited abilities. So man has a lot of theories.