Tradition equal to the Bible?

Question

I know the verse below is used to support extra-Biblical tradition. My question is this. Which specific traditions of the Catholic church did Paul mean when he wrote this verse? Which specific traditions did he teach that are not in the Bible?

2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Tina T - give me one example. Something Paul taught that is not in the Bible. A quote outside the Bible from Paul that says the Pope is infallible perhaps? Or is everything that we know Paul taught included in the Bible. I think the answer is everything we can conclusively say Paul taught is in the Bible.

pastor billy - nice answer but that was not what I asked. Catholics claim tradition is from the apostles. I am asking you to prove it.

Answer 1

The Roman Catholic Church is apostate because it has subverted the authority of Scripture by clinging to human traditions.

The Bible teaches that we do not need extra-biblical tradition, for the Bible is all we need; it alone can make a Christian “fully competent.” “All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching—for reproof, correction, and training in holiness, so that the man of God may be fully competent and equipped for every good work” (2 Tim. 3:16-17 NAB).

The Bible emphatically condemns the use of tradition as a source of authority because whenever tradition is set up alongside of Scripture, it eventually is placed above Scripture, and is then used to interpret Scripture. This is exactly what happened with Judaism in the days of Christ, and unfortunately what happened in the Roman Catholic Church: tradition and ritual became so important that it became necessary to keep the Bible away from the people. In fact, for centuries it was a mortal sin to possess and read the Bible in one’s own native tongue.

The Bible, the whole Bible and nothing but the Bible must be the standard for faith and life.

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Answer 2

Paul was not talking about the catholic church or its traditions. It did not come along for another few hundred years. He was talking about the "teachings" taught by the apostles.
Most translations use the word "teachings" rather than "traditions". The Greek work there is 'didasko' and is used in the NT 97 times (more in other forms). 95 of those times it is used as a part of the English word "teach".
I believe that "traditions" is a poor choice in this instance.

Answer 3

The Bible teaches that we don't choose greater desirable-biblical custom, for the Bible is all we choose; it on my own could make a Christian “totally helpful.” “All Scripture is inspired by way of God and is smart for coaching—for reproof, correction, and coaching in holiness, so as that the guy of God may well be totally helpful and geared up for each good artwork” (2 Tim. 3:sixteen-17 NAB). The Roman Catholic Church is apostate because of the fact it has subverted the authority of Scripture by way of clinging to human traditions. The Bible emphatically condemns using custom as a source of authority because of the fact on each and every occasion custom is desperate up alongside of Scripture, it is going to easily is located above Scripture, and is then used to interpret Scripture. it is precisely what befell with Judaism in the days of Christ, and regrettably what befell in the Roman Catholic Church: custom and formality grew to alter into so significant that it grew to alter into mandatory to maintain the Bible faraway from the individuals. in actuality, for hundreds of years it grew to become right into a mortal sin to very own and study the Bible in one’s very own community tongue. The Bible, the full Bible and not something however the Bible would desire to be the customary for faith and life.

Answer 4

"Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle" (2 Thessalonians 2:15). "But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us" (2 Thessalonians 3:6). These passages relate to the traditions the Thessalonians had received from Paul himself, whether oral or written. They do not relate to traditions handed down, but to teachings that they themselves had received either from the mouth of Paul or from his pen. Paul is not giving his blessing on all tradition, but rather only on the traditions he had passed on to the Thessalonians. This is in contrast to the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church, which have been handed down from the fourth century and later, not from the mouth or pen of one of the apostles.

Answer 5

Oral tradition existed many years before the Catholic Church created the Bible. Paul was refering to everything that Christ had taught while on earth.

Answer 6

Just checking in to see what kind of low handed dirty dealings you were up to but, it doesn't seem to be too bad with this question. There was ONLY Tradition before the Bible was put together so all of it basically including what is in it and it does not exclude the tradition of the Eucharist or the Sacrament of Penance or the Sacrament of the anointing of the sick or the Sacrament of Confirmation or etc. all of things that are Traditions included in the Catholic Religion.

Answer 7

Ok, since the Catholic church was not started until after the Bible, and Christ, the Bible is no way speaking of the traditions of the Catholic church that are completely man made and have aboslutely nothing to do with salvation, God's word, or anything else for that matter.

First off, lets look at their "tradition" of first holy communion. Why is it that one is allowed to take the body of Christ, as they believe it truly is, BEFORE they confess sin? Come on now, does that make any sense whatsoever?

And baptism at birth. There is no scripture to support the need for this at all. Yet Cahtolics will tell you that if a baby is not baptized and dies, they cannot go to Heaven. HUH? The Bible teaches that children are sanctified by their parents faith in Jesus Christ as Savior until the time they are of age to make that decision. I can assure you that my baptism at birth meant not a darn thing to me, but when I was born again to Christ, as the Bible states one must be, and CHOSE to be baptized as a symbol of my faith and death to self and birth to Christ, it was an extremely special time to me.

Then there is confessing sin to a Priest. Come on now. There is scripture after scripture telling us to go boldly to the throne of God. He wants us to have a personal relationship with Him, and there is not need to go anywhere else for forgiveness other than in prayer with Him.

Let's see, how about the idea that for a price the Catholic church will annul a previous marriage making it ok? Ya, that's my favorite. My husband was married for 6 months at 18. For $1500 however, the Catholic church could make it all ok. WHAT!?!?!?!?! How can THEY take away sin that Jesus has already done? ANd what were they going to do? Put the money aside and give it to God?

Ok, ok. I've said enough.

God bless.

Answer 8

No, one verse does not doctrine make.

All verses in the Bible must be left in the Bible for proper interpretation. In the entire chapter of 2 Thessolonians Paul is admonishing the people of Thessolonica not to listen to deceptive teachings but to adhere to the 'traditions' they learned from Paul, himself and his companions about Jesus Christ alone.

Answer 9

The Bible does not teach that the apostles affirmed that their oral teaching was authoritative, being on the same level as written Word of God. However, this was because there were living apostles who spoke with the authority of Christ through the Holy Spirit ( John 14:26, 16:13 )

Their oral teachings are the content that would become Scripture. Since they had not yet committed all their teaching to writing and since they had yet died, it was necessary to depend on their oral teaching. However, once the apostles committed their teaching to writing and died, so that they could no longer exercise their living authority, then the Bible alone became our authority for faith and practice ( 2 Tim 3:16-17 )

The revelatory traditions ( teachings ) of the apostles were written down and are inspired and infallible They comprise the New Testament. Since God deemed it essential for the faith and morals of the faithful to inspire the writings of twenty-seven books of apostolic teaching, it is not reasonable to suppose that he left out some important revelation in this book. So, however authoritative the apostles were by virtue of their office, only their words in Scripture are inspired and infallible ( 2 Tim 3:16-17, John 10:35 )

Answer 10

Hold the teachings which Paul and ones with him taught them, not to church traditions.

2Th 2:15 With all these things in mind, dear brothers and sisters, stand firm and keep a strong grip on the teaching we passed on to you both in person and by letter.